Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Michael Hudson-Doyle Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: snap in debian Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Brian May X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Oct 4 20:39:09 2017 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.321 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, GMAIL=1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MvesuT80TP3TXS0/TOQmW2Tp8wY1YLVB54PbjS2F16Q=; b=U0+gY0O4dGb6/7Pgtw08w2wwt7M/KEdKBtYOI7vIOMMQMrK88tU6k0WQWL6rFaXrYb CYEr+TfTtj4CdewWfSnTOQaIaSRH/bKP8l0HDGyjCi2uHFVlwwNWjHe8ffY7yySqYSzs O+TrGvUWJo8X+MLTxY2tQMrMBtZOKAcJEX5BxSdxMnCFo5b24fl+yndJSNEiuTVW3d8P Af1HwEiBo8CXpdgEv4drUTOiU0YQd7brhOgP1oTmn+G1jlFK8jyNaWb3D6V/WiHeefU5 GcKA0rVmibey6xQ0zXcygDDURJKVt2keu3XGFabkt9JBLKI7lrthIMl9xkDn+7WwEz2H CI0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjsKDc4EJ3CLrrzzoWpd99jF+GIKsXit0w9TpxHpg64xhWlUKKc 0NGXTJah/L1U7cDfwkWVsUM6sFd2LWI6M/RmHh+YPTqTN1aR10zhqU5rzg8z0rN/xKFYMLADVLG ijjVy4m4czLjEv8yi6uEwox0GS4P5Hakhue+umpw7t23ji1vA+D0IjAjpcZ+j X-Received: by 10.223.174.214 with SMTP id y80mr20036829wrc.192.1507148526874; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-SMTP-Source: AOwi7QDJxmGKMhBm29tX0lKB+zvS2mzLBqM1tW0IvpUW2ujx3tPgjMkTc8bjduR4tiRjDgfnCFi8m85IXB+24O1I1MQ= X-Received: by 10.223.174.214 with SMTP id y80mr20036799wrc.192.1507148525722; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:22:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113e6f8a7ff2b0055abe5c3b" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/15295 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAJ8wqtefHjksBt35eTqaw88EW-Kra_9QS8TzC-ZCFhhYnrhNsw@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 90 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 09:22:05 +1300 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <5804be2d-67fa-b7d3-1332-8b362f892b5e@laposte.net> <69cec3b4-0c04-9c9b-961b-a0a65b2d3cb5@gmail.com> <877eweegqo.fsf@prune.linuxpenguins.xyz> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:9913 --001a113e6f8a7ff2b0055abe5c3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" snapd maintainer here... On 2 October 2017 at 09:49, Brian May wrote: > Ghislain Vaillant writes: > > > May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we > > already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as > > means to install and update the application? > > For what its worth, last time I tried snap on Debian stable I found it > didn't work reliably. > Can you elaborate? Do you have apparmor enabled? I am aware that there are problems on stable currently but being explicit reduces guessing. I hope that once the core snap is updated to get 2.28 things will be better even on stable but I'm not 100% sure. I asked in Stack Overflow, and managed to backport the version of snap > from unstable. Where I encountered exactly the same problems as before: > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46127373/snap- > packages-on-debian-stable Can you try just installing the package from unstable rather than rebuilding it? (sometimes static linking does solve problems :-p) Cheers, mwh So possibly at least one of my problems is a Kernel issue in Debian > stable (at least my current theory), however this seems to indicate to > me that snap is still somewhat bleeding edge and cannot be relied on. > -- > Brian May > > --001a113e6f8a7ff2b0055abe5c3b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
snapd maintainer here...
On 2 October 2017 at 09:49, Brian May <bam@debian= .org> wrote:
Ghislain Vaill= ant <ghisvail@gmail.com> wr= ites:

> May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when = we
> already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as=
> means to install and update the application?

For what its worth, last time I tried snap on Debian stable I found it
didn't work reliably.

Can you elabo= rate? Do you have apparmor enabled? I am aware that there are problems on s= table currently but being explicit reduces guessing.

I hope that once the core snap is updated to get 2.28 things will be bet= ter even on stable but I'm not 100% sure.

I asked in Stack Overflow, and managed to backport the version of snap
from unstable. Where I encountered exactly the same problems as before:

https://stackoverflow.com= /questions/46127373/snap-packages-on-debian-stable

Can you try just installing the package from unstable= rather than rebuilding it? (sometimes static linking does solve problems := -p)

Cheers,
mwh

So possibly at least one of my problems is a Kernel issue in Debian
stable (at least my current theory), however this seems to indicate to
me that snap is still somewhat bleeding edge and cannot be relied on.
--
Brian May <bam@debian.org>


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