Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: pycharm package in debian Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2017 11:50:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun Oct 1 09:42:50 2017 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.206 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, GMAIL=1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RDNS_NONE=0.793] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -6.1 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Lines: 28 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney Cancel-Lock: sha1:S5c1TWqdj8A5hDQB/iC723Fjxo0= X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/15276 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/85efqn4324.fsf@benfinney.id.au Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2017 20:42:27 +1100 X-Original-Message-ID: <85efqn4324.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Original-References: <5804be2d-67fa-b7d3-1332-8b362f892b5e@laposte.net> <69cec3b4-0c04-9c9b-961b-a0a65b2d3cb5@gmail.com> <17971bbc-8896-0b60-2d7a-169929a5cb35@gmail.com> <85infz45j5.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:9894 Ghislain Vaillant writes: > All 3 means of installation (Jetbrain's app, snap and potentially apt) > are one-liners for the end-user. So, ease-of-use is hardly a > compelling argument. That's not the argument I made. I am satying that there are people who are not in the set of people who will install Snap or Flatpak or etc., because it's too much hassle to know whether it is free software or whether it will work correctly with the rest of the system. Getting the work as free software in Debian opens up the package for installation by those people. I count myself among them. I say this to counter the idea that there is a set of “users of this software package” that is not affected by whether the software is in Debian. That is false, and indeed getting the package maintained in Debian is a way to *increase* the potential members of that set. So, I don't find the “would users of this software package care about it being in Debian” query not compelling, because it makes a false assumption about the relationship. -- \ “If we ruin the Earth, there is no place else to go. This is | `\ not a disposable world, and we are not yet able to re-engineer | _o__) other planets.” —Carl Sagan, _Cosmos_, 1980 | Ben Finney