Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Ondrej Novy Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 23:50:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun Aug 6 21:42:10 2017 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.399 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, ONEWORDBODY=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=DoDftI4RVWXbIwfcgnePqHOwANa/WjM5JkXz2A4tKmY=; b=bfFK8y5J//o05TLvl+V8BG5mqkZo/e+n2yDt/00bpfJyoqUbvpOVY03HnldjRXrp61 lznskzsiPlpUr3W9ZwWWYGHlcjDdIcwQJAwu8T/4/FrGLDm8m2d93oL3lVadssgKO5OX I4Xaqo7g6HwhzYSOcB46ayY97xhjregJTJwfehG3KSHHxBKKR4Z3hldwchVDSpahokqR FQy/ogTW3wktAsHMM5I6f1R6y2RYC7z+X6d+WYHNhlOF+N5ZXvWJUJI+PgYQXo9+oNAc b3JRap5otf520pdQxN3BwZaWqhvtg9I1In+qq3B9o7824YarYJgnJG0NvOzOJG+oINEW XKew== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DoDftI4RVWXbIwfcgnePqHOwANa/WjM5JkXz2A4tKmY=; b=uZsdNkmclM/P7Ffn4BcvXtsqQef4YTy9oV7NF/YvYK03EuErLvfpB67dou0B4wuR5T NCUsp+btuC4aiW4M5sOiPrtR1fSXGrfw0XrGEAxD227pMnQYanN2qKEJeEWIgvpBqCOz NPIlj9JZnDR8vbc+DlxBE580M82axAeW8fRYi5ioG6U8dsftJ/wVyCqwF4gId8A8g6mg 0GyVpEgytLcskAv61Vn+aqb1sHz7eCn8Ga5vxkao7quK1es2jm2Su+NpFE3IL4GynuPO 0rF/cjxJTyqhol6jagthQupOCQ6pue0Ycb4AHdBUwY3AmHRCcwO5/lgALbiQEQptMwFf 9dSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5g7lSupRAbP1YL+KOsxrB4msk+qQjRjLe4AP0vcJbDy25kGCVjG wun+Ntlygg3ut/9NHHukbtBMTAKsJQ== X-Received: by 10.31.147.84 with SMTP id v81mr2685329vkd.40.1502054700024; Sun, 06 Aug 2017 14:25:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Google-Sender-Auth: x48S5MLOaCI3_XvLrRSkYYznRuc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1141f826d409d605561c5c55" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/15094 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAOO6c=y2GGsQy2mzRDkdoN8PA5+yDvztOTrov46=_N5sV93JVg@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 86 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 17:24:59 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20170806153751.GW2409@yuggoth.org> <39436F23-8AC3-4D53-908C-C87DCA12B8A9@kitterman.com> <20170806185344.GX2409@yuggoth.org> X-Original-Sender: ondrej.novy@gmail.com Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:9713 --001a1141f826d409d605561c5c55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, 2017-08-06 14:53 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Stanley : > Why would you need to repack a tarball just because it contains > prebuilt docs (non-DFSG-free licensed documentation aside)? I'm all > Lintian considers this as "bug": https://lintian.debian. org/tags/source-contains-prebuilt-sphinx-documentation.html (pedantic, I know). Pretty sure OpenStack at least would consider any content which > requires Debian package maintainers to alter tarballs prior to > including them in the archive as fairly serious bug in its software. > But they want to keep generated (read: useless for our orig tarballs) things inside release tarballs. And sdist orig tarballs are too big, because they contains prebuild things, FTP masters are not happy. (Thomas words). Context: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/openstack-devel/2017-July= / 021447.html ... I've been already flamed by the FTP masters because small packages like nova-compute-* became insanely huge (ie: megs instead of kbytes). ... I consider git repository to be better source of "source code" than sdist, which is built from that same git. But it's just about POV :). --=20 Best regards Ond=C5=99ej Nov=C3=BD Email: novy@ondrej.org PGP: 3D98 3C52 EB85 980C 46A5 6090 3573 1255 9D1E 064B --001a1141f826d409d605561c5c55 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">2017-08-06 14:53 GMT-04:00 Jeremy Stanley=C2=A0<= fungi@yuggoth.org>:
Why would you need to repack a tarball just because it contains=
prebuilt docs (non-DFSG-free licensed documentation aside)? I'm all=

Lintian considers this as "bug&qu= ot;:=C2=A0https://lintian.debian.org/tags/source-contains-prebuilt-sphinx-documentation.html<= /div>
(pedantic, I know).

Pretty sure OpenStack at least would consider any = content which
requires Debian package maintainers to alter tarballs prio= r to
including them in the archive as fairly serious bug in its software= .

But they want to keep generated (read= : useless for our orig tarballs) things inside release tarballs.=C2=A0

And sdist orig tarballs are too big, because they cont= ains prebuild things, FTP masters are not happy. (Thomas words).
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... I've been already flamed by the FTP m= asters because small
packages like nova-compute-* became insanely= huge (ie: megs instead of
kbytes). ...

I consider git repository to be better source of "source code&qu= ot; than sdist, which is built from that same git. But it's just about = POV :).

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