Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Barry Warsaw Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 20:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun Sep 11 18:25:52 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .debian. - helo: .mail.wooz. - helo-domain: .wooz.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_NOT_HELO(DOMAIN)=0; rate: -5 Organization: The Organization of Unorganized Woozalists X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/14206 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20160912062529.4515daf7.barry@wooz.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 22 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 06:25:29 +1200 X-Original-Message-ID: <20160912062529.4515daf7.barry@wooz.org> X-Original-References: <20160911063518.3c05a80b.barry@wooz.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:8868 On Sep 11, 2016, at 09:41 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >now can we PLEASE stop talking about how the perfect smtp system >should work and GET BACK to discuss if we are able and want to disable >the suspend membership upon bounces (that's what the mail you receive >says, so do not nitpick on this term again) The downside is that the mail system will no longer track legitimate bounces, so more traffic will be generated to addresses which won't get delivered, and more bounce traffic will be received by the incoming mail system and just thrown away. The question to answer is whether that's an acceptable trade-off for reducing the inconvenience of people who need to occasionally re-enable their subscriptions because of the mail provider they use? I'm not a Debian system administrator, so I can't answer that question. However, if the impact on the network is acceptable, then all else being equal, making users lives better is usually a good choice. :) (I'd still complain to my mail provider, for whatever good that would do.) Cheers, -Barry