Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Sandro Tosi Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: can we disable the bounce kicker? Re: confirm Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 18:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sat Sep 10 16:30:47 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.697 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=CLLk7M+Stf4XJc0/VVptvKOdfoviaRVC82rx9qsx3sM=; b=Pe1SoE6dOVi2wffACYYWs6Yzape3UbpYFR/csduChErF3QgnSp/1t+Wth0XjZ99PPx PCgVSRaU9N++IJ4wmRqgBrKmkRDCwVVl5aVdbpTJ8i5bWmR99PQQzy7YfjN+Fmqqpryi jkQk+rm1LzOLKPnOyoND7uOtpJIKtOY7mSiaUiCdgdBZqnX31r1tsKv5G4PuhBvYF0aY q5vEY7vcNWYeZegugSPwXdayG2c+vGFjz07Lk0kS73Eh2IqKEv1ZTYkjbuRu2oCW1D1q +Xj5e6gao+JV3y/cuVrW8YJxDtdDNPb/5m/IdQOlCNqoRgH06VKHtOmEfmwXV1zJ/nm5 K8qg== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CLLk7M+Stf4XJc0/VVptvKOdfoviaRVC82rx9qsx3sM=; b=PNqYUECXqHy1FSrNSCD2HegpI6OClzq7x5iDgUjBXo2hVEj61HkUKHByVCiHI6D3PD 30/l3kktARazcO0YnznCKzR2hVXl2QyF5TrnC93Wu7wHBK0qgn30hNAXzZt8KWGRAkQV H0XPe29td1dN/o+c1pYHpuNVBdUi5Eu2H5kBm/zLFRfEolR8Fgfxe3aokmLNqw4AH/pN xjKKtBwgmhjp4FTWKOqhJ8w3jwQWwPe7auZ6TDk7DcEt5DzBdLh8XGriwhR3SjdDZDZO eEWcfcLuIUYREglHFNyHtjV6JUXoXM8Kf7qKm1BptmMNT1IKEugHaYdqCWlKUELM/XDG MmFg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPmp//PAsp3r3UkX3GmJnRFBIbXPuTdUqqq5SePWjHgbXn0Sws9E3RVb/qyv0+d1NIiZuRVDloMOF/xQg== X-Received: by 10.25.215.35 with SMTP id o35mr3092991lfg.40.1473525030374; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:30:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Google-Sender-Auth: NNVRfXdEv0hEqFPNEBL9kYEYTfY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/14196 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAB4XWXyhtZfm4DKHHoJnnnPiRYq+85nwBM5MHR050bdctuGywA@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 22 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:29:59 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20160910143220.xjrowygwxhbs56jw@nuc> <20160910153412.efnwyunnwe4vfyqk@nuc> <20160910162010.p7h4l3zrlkronmxb@chase.mapreri.org> X-Original-Sender: sandro.tosi@gmail.com Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:8858 On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > The correct behaviour if they really want to avoid spam to even reach > the spam folder, is to accept the email, and discard it. err that's wrong, so wrong. every email provider with a handful of users rejects spam messages in the smtp session; not doing so is a waste of time, it doesnt give any information back to the sender (that in some rare case is a human and really wants to know the email was not received) and in some countries (italy to name one) you would be breaking the law accepting emails and not delivering them to the recipient. now that we discussed at length how we should handle the smtp service with spam, can we please get back on topic? is it possible for the admins to disable the auto-membership-suspend option on the the python teams mailing list? is it something others would rather keep or not? -- Sandro "morph" Tosi My website: http://sandrotosi.me/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi G+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SandroTosi