Path: csiph.com!news.freedyn.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.panservice.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Amend Debian Python Proposal to Include More Python Metadata? Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Jan 22 18:41:58 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=kitterman.com; s=201409; t=1453488101; bh=UsaRRoUDKenrx0HNdd8n8ooHCZ6SWwOS1rgQAV+uZfw=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=J3FQQEaHlhWyalDLZdaHUeabAgbmA88aP8spJkDqZV7uiaLKvrmnntdAelHO9YLTx ql37iV+Ef3+wS+SC1Mv7BP+45e58NdxGLRRvTkrIAshNnoLiGvVEGYIeBT37i/SYNW vULgSgourkcI09PThXWWOimcZ1PatoM91B/4+V9s= User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-71-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13449 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/2067882.9JkdsQ7VrC@kitterma-e6430 Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 22 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:41:42 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <2067882.9JkdsQ7VrC@kitterma-e6430> X-Original-References: <1786685.I7BEcu2KUm@kitterma-e6430> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:8127 On Friday, January 22, 2016 01:32:45 PM Fred Drake wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Currently --record includes the .pyc files which is both unneeded and bad. > > Before this gets added either in setuptools or by us, this needed to be > > fixed. > Why is this bad? Isn't the point that the record file lists the files > installed by the installation process? If the pyc files are installed > as part of the package, they should be listed. For Debian it's bad because we don't ship the .pyc files in the package they are managed locally by the installed python system. They are also unnecessary because setuptools/pip/python is smart enough to relate .pyc files to their .py files without them being listed. Part of the goal here is to make sure that regardless of the installation method, there's a list of files that were installed. Since Debian packages don't install the .pyc files, listing them is wrong. Scott K P.S. I'm subscribed to the list, so there's no need to CC me.