Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.panservice.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Fred Drake Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Amend Debian Python Proposal to Include More Python Metadata? Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri Jan 22 18:48:04 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.448 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=J9pm6dLrkyXLEHN/vMFoMOmayR5KFQctgOf/Riwl6Ng=; b=TS0hWgKriMlEcJ34MaNKMAG8lVJ8qUajvA3SFyxtw7Nm4NgrFBnqEMrL+j6y+BPq9p tm8xrY1wtnbkZkUohG/nbRZ/X7HyWDaHyKNLf3pa+SHYvwzqN4qJblB19pVtcwdqHrkV mUNbXuA1RIgK1vW0ZAaQDFEiGXfaneqmC54W6ioFbiAP1kKsHY9VWPkMbnqIeEWt6kes qVSWY25T366coexF+ZhwgICxcDcLE3t8TmqditHq//zG+8aJ/ZMQ/xrUPurzROPkBtc5 yh/c4rKENBHmGuxGfveWZqaR/0YELGno3m/esRNIrPVRvSvrYBKfgr0fYdLPoljzO8Hh s0ow== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=J9pm6dLrkyXLEHN/vMFoMOmayR5KFQctgOf/Riwl6Ng=; b=lQCDjBDVakKVBQA3Y1hhAt1UQDz+AamZ25ECutc1Es+IcRd3o3tzHfa2nXUvnYrcnM tPSGOJYO0Fh4d4Cji/Zaaj4g0BlIT4sT+5Av8I7oiRnM95T/1+WMf3JK1XeOBAAWeITo GPOs7ZkZgTTMuWmt/mpYlLg9pWOQALABM48+T13VfuYdiDE33S3Zz9v+46Mza460m9IT kqU0RbDqKYadlSXxo45gkqfoXMPYF+eKkMHyfrXhjAiPmM/hIyDI4k39BGqCV+vDQI9P mUzOi7Ih2QrtdUzcj78HFc1EIhqlNLRm5zEJwFHd1HbdLY/ouwXrSmppcnfKzZUQSiX2 YZ2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQKQtfgLm/mopHFArSZNgSP2bQytYCTcpOoONiuUUdhxgoFe1LeZyFSBBN92PJd7TK2wRjRssLUunFJ4A== X-Received: by 10.129.124.130 with SMTP id x124mr2306181ywc.140.1453488468008; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:47:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Google-Sender-Auth: FJGwmKgCd21TCqr-s_I0upNMrgQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13450 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAFT4OTEVt_BdR1sgm_1T0ieAHqZEt5N=cZQCm946xmocjQUgKw@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 25 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:47:28 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <1786685.I7BEcu2KUm@kitterma-e6430> <2067882.9JkdsQ7VrC@kitterma-e6430> X-Original-Sender: fdrake@gmail.com Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:8126 On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > For Debian it's bad because we don't ship the .pyc files in the package they > are managed locally by the installed python system. They are also unnecessary > because setuptools/pip/python is smart enough to relate .pyc files to their .py > files without them being listed. The .pyc files aren't shipped in the .deb, or they aren't installed when the .deb is installed? If they're installed, I think they should be listed. If not installed when the package is installed, then they definitely shouldn't be listed. > Part of the goal here is to make sure that regardless of the installation > method, there's a list of files that were installed. Since Debian packages > don't install the .pyc files, listing them is wrong. I agree that listing them if they aren't installed is wrong. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "A storm broke loose in my mind." --Albert Einstein