Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!lilly.ping.de!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: =?UTF-8?Q?Louis-Philippe_V=c3=a9ronneau?= Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python 3.11, bytecode and new internals Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Nov 21 17:03:23 2022 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.2 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -3.5 X-Riseup-User-ID: 8D1136318ACCD543FEABA0A0FFDFC1095265C8C26C4B34C5FFD92623BCF1EFDD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20490 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/6a68f118-391b-2e81-c325-3148a0970ef8@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 24 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 12:02:57 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <6a68f118-391b-2e81-c325-3148a0970ef8@debian.org> X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:14630 On 2022-11-21 02 h 08, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I'm just flagging this up here, with a question about how we should > proceed. Certainly we are not ready to make Python 3.11 the default > Python version!! This is a concern I share and I think I've been pretty vocal about it. I feel the state of python packages for Bookworm with 3.10 was pretty good and it seemed reasonable to prioritize stability for our next stable release :) It's very frustrating to work on packaging python libraries and apps for a whole release cycle, just to see all that work put in the bin at the last minute because upstream doesn't support 3.11... I've been told the current 3.11 transition was a test, and if it was clear too many important things were broken and couldn't be fixed, we would roll back and release using 3.10. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Louis-Philippe Véronneau ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ pollo@debian.org / veronneau.org ⠈⠳⣄