Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Michael Kesper Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python 3.10 in bookworm Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2023 15:00:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun Feb 5 13:51:29 2023 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.388 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.09, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 X-Greylist: delayed 305 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at bendel; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 13:34:20 UTC MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20779 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/3b6a2f98-13dc-0db2-069b-2cd2f5a2254d@familie-kesper.de Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 27 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 14:29:10 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <3b6a2f98-13dc-0db2-069b-2cd2f5a2254d@familie-kesper.de> X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:14892 Hi Julian, Am 05.02.23 um 11:38 schrieb Julian Gilbey: > Why is the current intention not to ship the python3.10 package in > bookworm? Because it would amount to about double the work for all those involved. Besides, Python 3.11 has some points for it: - Real performance gains for real workloads - It will be supported one year longer (so EOL is expected to be around the time bookworm will be out of stable, too). > I was trying to run some experiments in a virtual environment a few > days ago, and it turns out that several of the Python packages I > needed do not yet run on Python 3.11. I was saved by being able to > run in a Python 3.10 venv and download all the required packages from > PyPI. If bookworm shipped without python3.10, I would not have been > able to do my work. Removing python3.10 from bookworm will seriously > affect many of our users in a similar situation to me. ... > P.S. We should also fix #1036268 if we do keep python3.10 in bookworm; > I'm happy to do an NMU if needed. Maybe you could sponsor a "backport" of Python3.11? My 2 cents Michael