Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Thomas Goirand Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Notes from the DC22 Python Team BoF Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 10:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Julian Gilbey , =?UTF-8?Q?Louis-Philippe_V=c3=a9ronneau?= X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Jul 27 07:52:54 2022 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.934 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.714, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, USER_IN_DKIM_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Content-Language: en-US Organization: Debian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Debian-User: zigo X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20123 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/020c797c-bf31-6cd3-9e81-29699e381f21@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 36 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:52:35 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <020c797c-bf31-6cd3-9e81-29699e381f21@debian.org> X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:14289 On 7/25/22 09:37, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 07:52:19PM +0200, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: >> Hey folks, >> >> We had a Python Team BoF at DC22 earlier today and I thought relaying the >> notes we took in gobby here would be a good idea. > > Thanks for the notes, Louis-Philippe, and sorry I couldn't join you! > > A few comments.... > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> == python3.11 == >> >> python3.11 release has been delayed, from october 2022 to december 2022. >> [...] > > My 2 cents' worth is as the 3.9->3.10 transition took several months, > and was quite complicated, it is not wise to attempt the 3.10->3.11 > before the freeze. We could then potentially go straight to 3.12 a > few months after the bookworm freeze rather than going to 3.11 first. > And that will probably be quite painful. I agree, also because 3.10 wont be EOL before Bookworm becomes LTS. However, it's quite tempting to upgrade to 3.11 because: - our users will prefer having the latest stable release of Python in our latest release, rather than an old version. - 3.11 has many optimization (it's said to be 25% faster) So if we can at least TRY, it's not a so bad idea... Hopefully, we can take the decision to reverse if needed. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)