Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Stefano Rivera Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: pyupgrade has been packaged + request to join the team Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:20:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Thu Sep 16 19:16:34 2021 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.228 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.398, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 Mail-Followup-To: Joshua Peisach , "debian-python@lists.debian.org" X-Gpg-Public-Key: http://www.rivera.za.net/stefano.gpg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20201127 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/19331 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20210916191618.c4g2hmdo3av5pr3o@satie.tumbleweed.org.za Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 76 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: "debian-python@lists.debian.org" X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:16:18 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <20210916191618.c4g2hmdo3av5pr3o@satie.tumbleweed.org.za> X-Original-References: X-Received-Bytes: 5163 Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:13536 Hi Joshua (2021.09.05_23:13:14_+0000) > Now I'm trying to package things to rack up some contributions to > Debian (and Ubuntu in that vein) by packaging more things. Welcome. We're glad to have you rack up contributions in our neighbourhood. > My previous RFS's was a handful of Nemo extensions, which happened to > be at the time Bullseye freeze depression struck, and they were all > expired. Sometimes the most effective way to get things sponsored in the python team is via the IRC sponsorship request list. But sometimes they pile up because nobody is sponsoring... > 1. Can I be the maintainer for pyupgrade and have the team as an > uploader? I'm asking this because the wiki mentions rule of thumb is > the team maintaining to find a 'knowledgeable person'. Yes, you can. Or the other way around if you want people in the team to feel free to work on your package (this tends to be rare, though). > 2. Can I join the team and later move pyupgrade to the python-team > repos? This way I can still upload my package(s, and more as I heard > some help is needed for pip at the BoF), and get contributions in > for my NM. If the team is an uploader or maintainer of the package, it should live in the team repos. You can move existing package repos into the python-team/packages group. > 3. When I join, for the initial release: can the git repo still be > my personal salsa repo and use pypi? This way I can just get it > pushed, and then later it can be adjusted to pull from a GitHub tag > and moved to the team. Yes, you can delay adding the team as a Maintainer, until the package is moved into the team salsa group. > So, with that being said, can I join the team Please read the team policy: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/blob/master/policy.rst And send an email saying that you agree to it. > how should I carry the initial release out? Let me know when you are > ready for me to open an RFS. Once you've got membership, you can move your repo into the team and request sponsorship. > Update: I have also packaged a fork of python-patch that is better > maintained to close #845482, which is visible at > https://salsa.debian.org/ItzSwirlz-guest/python-patch-ng. I've decided > to set the team as Maintainer and me as Uploader this time, as I > figured I would still technically be a maintainer if I was part of the > team. As soon as pyupgrade gets its initial release I will do the > same. In Debian we generally consider the Maintainer and Uploaders of a package to all be the maintainers of the package. The Maintainer field only permits a single entity while Uploaders permits more. In the Debian Python Team, we have some extra nuance about whether the team is in the Maintainer or Uploaders field. Team as maintainer means anybody can work on the package, team as uploader means feel free to commit changes to git but ask for permission before uploading. This is unusual, I don't know of any other teams that do that. SR -- Stefano Rivera http://tumbleweed.org.za/ +1 415 683 3272