Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Sandro Tosi Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Request to join Python Modules Team Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 23:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Jul 15 21:30:55 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.377 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-qt1-f177.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -5.5 X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Ag46dnMWxqN3LunicqzlhxBw5YX0hzycfxr7pg2gcG0=; b=Et8Z4Qc/g05XQQ7RbjAak91scA4e5n7mHJjj3X1WT26IQgoHQ5rC4nPitc+2bXkpxi jf9bWBqusDrEPg94EiRogUGrm75ZrQHbUWUkOrd5twG70xApV6KGHxWYER7otq5tCIlz 8xWuCGv55yNA1TvOJ0x/Lk+fMyZc44dl/ypU8f/QgOzj2qJLmuwH+msja1qku9aBv7ox t3G5UXz0oCtCNrwvIgdF8Q8jUuZDar/yb8woX9AKXDd65dzW9voXMfQyMlEJOAZXV58u RkV+wk9i1aEo67K3yFyEZDmmGk14hxZvl3p4sHLtEU3ep+Pm/pxzupw2aaBi+ENSpoig 0OUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5319JDMwA24nWEXrM9wD8CD5X+LjXXe7OHac8D+0pHRl5vvrDjcq /fAIRLaUs7pWtmK7LxS1xLyTu+u81GJox3mLJiSKdUvtIc0= X-Google-SMTP-Source: ABdhPJzmfZ1ZBOfyM1/VVI2eVRtAuneQq2DqQc8atQgAvkR4nsSm9OwzQUo3TaE9ofg5az1HXHnsr4QFYNnAeUtANvg= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2f81:: with SMTP id m1mr1983076qtd.266.1594848638985; Wed, 15 Jul 2020 14:30:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18505 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAB4XWXx0fgZZXEdYRFD6=-+gT7jFxvBz4N7rdOGGs0BRy7-0+A@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 36 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:30:12 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20200705164601.u2ihj2kvapmw7lst@gpm.stappers.nl> <20200714211837.tso73um3emnr6ozx@gpm.stappers.nl> <20200715204113.ao74hyszj6sx7sts@gpm.stappers.nl> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12768 > Imaging you are the person that wants to join this cool project. > You made some effort to apply for membership and sent in the request. > Then you wait humblely. Humble as you are, you wait another day. > On third day you start wondering "Is asking again expressing > that you care or is it pushing the people you want to join?" I did not see a single MR from all the people that requested to join the team in recent times (and i'm subscribed to MR notifications for both DPMT and PAPT), and i do know that you cannot submit an MR for new packages. Almost all those introductory mails mentioned "I want to maintain this new package *AND* [emphasis added] help with general maintenance" but those maintenance contributions never really came (neither before or after membership was granted, at least not at the level a person that cares so much would lead to expect). If they really want to contribute they can always submit MRs or patches to the bts, and/or prepare a NEW package in a temporary location if access is still not granted; but that didnt really happen. We dont really have a good process to accept new contributions (it mostly boils down to single individuals to review, merge, upload), but we also dont really that many to begin with. Geert, I personally find your approach towards the current members/admins pushy, so speaking exclusively for myself l I would suggest you to be mindful that, while I may believe you're trying to be helpful, you may come across differently than how you intended. Regards, -- Sandro "morph" Tosi My website: http://sandrotosi.me/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi