Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Maintaining all of the testing-cabal packages under the OpenStack team Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:50:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Jun 29 14:41:55 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.2 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1593441701; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=rxeZCCOXwsPfU1PZgVunFbepJGvKWP5C7JYuWvCBTHM=; b=N01kJx60Es51b+j2kpwbDtTHw5PCerWsfAVaKw7XuA6Qqo+L+VCslWziLD6KGq1J5BOI3 A6iv9H/yLMalQITDQ== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1593441701; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=rxeZCCOXwsPfU1PZgVunFbepJGvKWP5C7JYuWvCBTHM=; b=LmGpoWMG0VxlsWjgEU0mxE0sKpCp739EbZklgebyh0te3LlU3U4FOTan8laxFxrXX/PSC nJGeAVZRXUwiMdEwdTYv7ExGKX3q/MKuBlxlgpD8v2wEQ+2a44LmcXjpzo4Ml8wnCqh9T8A 3zr1lPFJSnQfOW/3fmi0DKrMjj3LXqwV/wFvRa7X9Ke/PYfP0wq6BuZ0LBzI1TamAnZwXUZ iykZy1C22wAvqeklNUtXu4M3yNVFV12GPGpsCgxz+nxMYTqK/fFLmoAjs00Oa2p/3plcSz+ 9FeCry1rcUIWTKLq/CAhU4wdTHw8JUmouke8d81uZ8sioDBi3QCm3en3E/Gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart13063993.ZS0z6ZkTq0"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18418 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/5516635.OsdaMkBksq@zini-1880 Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 64 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:41:40 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <5516635.OsdaMkBksq@zini-1880> X-Original-References: <10f32e46-e9e5-acbe-739f-fe563da025e3@debian.org> <26a1df01-37cf-b87c-6d5f-eba73a77ea12@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12697 --nextPart13063993.ZS0z6ZkTq0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Monday, June 29, 2020 7:53:46 AM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 6/29/20 12:58 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On June 29, 2020 10:12:49 AM UTC, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 6/29/20 8:34 AM, Ondrej Novy wrote: > >>> nope, this is not true. Using the newest debhelper compat level is > >>> recommended, see man page. There is no reason to __not__ upgrade > >>> debhelper compat level. I will always upgrade debhelper in my > >> > >> packages > >> > >>> to the newest debhelper as soon as possible. Please newer downgrade > >>> debhelper in my packages again without asking. > >> > >> I don't agree this is best practice when backports are to be expected. > > > > I'm substantially less enthusiastic about bumping compat levels than > > Ondrej, but since debhelper 13 is available in buster-backports,> > > backporting is unrelated to whether it's a good idea or not. > I'm not maintaining OpenStack through the official backports channel, > because OpenStack users need to have access to all versions of OpenStack > backported to the current Stable. These backports are available through > a debian.net channel (available using extrepo). > > Therefore, the debhelper backport is not available in my build > environment unless I explicitly do some work to make this happen (and > Ondrej is aware of that). Just bumping the debhelper version (and > without a good reason to do so) just add some unnecessary work > maintaining the debhelper backport for me. By all means, let's bump to > version 12. But why version 13 if you don't need the added features? > This makes no sense to me. Since you are maintaining an external backports repository, I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect packages that would work with Debian Backports to be supported. One debhelper upload per compat level doesn't seem like enough work to be worth all this complaining. Scott K --nextPart13063993.ZS0z6ZkTq0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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