Path: csiph.com!4.us.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Maintaining all of the testing-cabal packages under the OpenStack team Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 13:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Jun 29 10:58:55 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1593428319; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : from : message-id : from; bh=lQ0Ia4Nl7lzSUNtvQ8mrU7q5Z0LoO0UKjVGe5TatwU0=; b=vyQ6qJK7ickmOtViWrSYTQJGNjlmQahK+7MYpQbIhWHxzm1caWc4I9ys4BG5nXzBoIzzJ 28RWaaLWCe921/RDw== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1593428319; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : from : message-id : from; bh=lQ0Ia4Nl7lzSUNtvQ8mrU7q5Z0LoO0UKjVGe5TatwU0=; b=UzjWZMD7+UTNPrYJsVQOmS0urOvJYGtvCf0CHgVXo5e1bpWiXXKiYywAmYwz53IQ7OnBU q5s8qHJTfzCOL0+i+SwhjUJrgQ+0be2+E7OY67YmIwnH87nCmcx+N4vvSYsW8Kr8aqevXX2 vFvWJN+E8XqXoOlBZIt1Z1E/0yAL1eCqZK91ZZ9kq57VOEc5fWohvh/YJiufijxBdslhnSi 5ZqybTFM2wOX8LJ0PsOZaTl+TD12PLV704tCGpPt20G5DuHF56qZaYCBMztjhC5+GuIRFVo bMEgqAdcnYLZBFFqJTnC/XEoXIRIE8Bu6yoJnIuDIU+ib1lTVnro93YlDp8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18411 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/C8785EF9-E258-4FD9-9031-BD26D48C3BF5@kitterman.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 34 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 10:58:36 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <10f32e46-e9e5-acbe-739f-fe563da025e3@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12691 On June 29, 2020 10:12:49 AM UTC, Thomas Goirand wrote= : >On 6/29/20 8:34 AM, Ondrej Novy wrote: =2E=2E=2E >> More over, mock debhelper was upgraded to 13, for no apparent >reason >> (yet another "cosmetic fix" that isn't helping?)=2E I'd like to >remind >> everyone that, increasing debhelper compat version to a number >that >> isn't in stable, without a specific reason (like the need of a >specific >> feature that wasn't there before) is just annoying for anyone >> maintaining backports=2E That's truth even for when debhelper >itself is >> backported to oldstable (it's always nicer to be able to build a >> backport without requiring another backport at build time)=2E >>=20 >> nope, this is not true=2E Using the newest debhelper compat level is >> recommended, see man page=2E There is no reason to __not__ upgrade >> debhelper compat level=2E I will always upgrade debhelper in my >packages >> to the newest debhelper as soon as possible=2E Please newer downgrade >> debhelper in my packages again without asking=2E > >I don't agree this is best practice when backports are to be expected=2E I'm substantially less enthusiastic about bumping compat levels than Ondre= j, but since debhelper 13 is available in buster-backports, backporting is = unrelated to whether it's a good idea or not=2E Scott K