Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Mattia Rizzolo Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Policy proposal: Consistent use of UNRELEASED in debian/changelog Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:30:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Sep 28 11:22:40 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -3.5 Mail-Followup-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2KGcTUzwJ+J1jnia" Content-Disposition: inline X-Info: Keep It Simple, Stupid. X-Operating-System: Linux, kernel 5.2.0-2-amd64, inside Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid sid. X-Message-Flag: WARNING!! Outlook sucks. A lot. User-Agent: Every email client sucks, this one just sucks less. X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18662 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20200928112224.GZ2020058@mapreri.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 57 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:22:24 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <20200928112224.GZ2020058@mapreri.org> X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12904 --2KGcTUzwJ+J1jnia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 08:07:29PM -0400, Louis-Philippe V=E9ronneau wrote: > The problem this tries to solves is inconsistent use of UNRELEASED in > debian/changelog. Some people do not use it at all, and it can make > working on team packages harder. >=20 > Indeed, if you try to modify a package, if people don't use UNRELEASED, > you first need to check if the current VCS version has been uploaded to > the archive or not. This complicates the life of people doing mass > updates, as they can't rely on packages with `unstable` having been > uploaded. I just want to point people towards the fact that the Janitor's is now being clever about recognizing whether a package is using `gbp dch` (which I believe is the case you refer to when you say that UNRELEASED is not used), or changelog entires are added whenever a change is done. That said, I acknoledge that it makes sense to converge on a single solution for the whole team, and honestly I don't have much of a strong preference towards either one. --=20 regards, Mattia Rizzolo GPG Key: 66AE 2B4A FCCF 3F52 DA18 4D18 4B04 3FCD B944 4540 .''`. More about me: https://mapreri.org : :' : Launchpad user: https://launchpad.net/~mapreri `. `'` Debian QA page: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=3Dmattia `- --2KGcTUzwJ+J1jnia Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEi3hoeGwz5cZMTQpICBa54Yx2K60FAl9xx20ACgkQCBa54Yx2 K60vbw/+J9MNSuYK+c5+LuM/GxThObpHZ6xSynLN57QKKlNkbWH72ufInMOxZTXV c0+LNxtIcS1H2ZJkK9aS5BuauytPjtfiv6XL+rV1647ilETr6iphwqfB+ZOylXtY tE26DuFOofsQL1aOUY69AgLhkA4rXjEwLurB3yQw7Tmiw1wQap3XNToLpUfI4CKL HVG+MNHmkM0YEHcggQjLygjOwyzoMH++BY+h6NfzpMYb78a3hM18A7ZJ1x0e3wOb x6JyADIi9BDy7YX8xv6/vl6O9THdVeG393fpKI9WyVtmmEYOSIWzjn2T8kHlqwcT hfqBet4883CnF5dXWP+NAY9Wi4frGSy3Tmr25C6LDHkMsGZo6B8/bIx/8wzGqw5+ qSwERfHzzsPjiFEe94/dpzP6Tm90ev+DMtPrT8ZDtAOJiFP8S+w/QhGMP/5G/ITY 5enIKqCLnscrXFmyw7U0qu0UNQ91nB3ikJOZQVGm4l75I7E2c5CQhAg5frPt95kr XLMstfql+pvIjOk56oTnaqZmJVhFiflixHK9q2Za6PF/EhVN7E/ZYzAaFKZX3h6T pqCSyvoUTb+0G/5k/ngkonfMIO0ZuXYFt/rf+5PCaGv15ISifJszmTJsTNac19Sa EkL13uVZjy/RXBnrlyAq+FHyKj5ihjnd30nJ0G4CD7QqFvIJhJo= =3QwS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2KGcTUzwJ+J1jnia--