Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Emmanuel Arias Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Policy proposal: Consistent use of UNRELEASED in debian/changelog Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 02:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Louis=2DPhilippe_V=C3=A9ronneau?= X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Sep 28 00:35:31 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.449 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-ua1-x935.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=el3wNx6wa86aazWSW8aHKetn2T2iYlcmQ5bRk52FXus=; b=esS54e8ccwJ6uDvcTKHlCrPp2wsoH310GX9QBwpN3gymCthUlbZJ5PsL8A7fphZafp pTtazUZNRob87YrYK4+owt6S3+de0hw/pIUnHIFDIDAkNl1zSz4oUItpMcgDRPAVc27l pZCnYhBTQaa7c7WpFIe5TidRIFRxXeT285F3p7z5fV8XOVjwQjlmzlKVMl9TuaWUHI8L H+3G5tbKsQ4KgvJ4UZ60hfgzEKCUIRCdWqUfV2JW2jGgukW08DyELxmJQAmaHxg9YQ// k1CJuZdgHtagctQq1wuO+WEHYq14+Hh5FTFAR1HMq5HcZZbz4fA9YnYAbXJmzPA43Dfk MFeA== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=el3wNx6wa86aazWSW8aHKetn2T2iYlcmQ5bRk52FXus=; b=iDXcuwTVj1ltxT2JBkbTGfZaApVFNgCfSB7LmLNOWhvDw0bYI/jvhS+ej8SFOurzyt 6jdw7PC7y83TjHlAn35soHoDFGLAtSnDU8sTMNTO75aUHkDnb324lZJDSD2liKrgb7RJ SbOLOLLZ0dt+zxYx9HZ2QdIT2e1VXUNslGWgpdhBAsQFv894/LzuhrY4ZW8rutAaZ+yw kaNl7e3ck7DfpkX1tt5FRc+Cm+vZjVVuxLo6vSAAWPtDjlJud6PalKwwLB2tWZX+fez+ ks+VuT2lR5SVmm3gYG1OESUQAhRVbMklCTN4gofXyYCUhNhPg40TT1MieCWDEvLG5Te0 m3wA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530agPgIAmZTZgL1YzK7ITInGcGgjfCWw9DxrsIuQz2wKsAvsoVJ eq18AfG5rXcOB2D8B4JF2ckUkAJus4gGfRo9Qh0= X-Google-SMTP-Source: ABdhPJwCI4ji9U9lIZYMy46zzoXVW9JmfOEMsReDCdl2wepbz+EhMuG49w8TyILh7A2nsHR8AafFFCFU6zIb2J8qanw= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:b18:: with SMTP id b24mr3938658uak.75.1601253311232; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:35:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cfbf1905b054d6ee" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18660 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CACttXDN_auP7kOH1M6pNL80ivtrtCQdAG_uPX1GBZqiKDSeM5g@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 125 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 21:35:00 -0300 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12902 --000000000000cfbf1905b054d6ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, El dom., 27 de sep. de 2020 a la(s) 21:08, Louis-Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau ( pollo@debian.org) escribi=C3=B3: > Hi! > > I am proposing a minor addition to the DPT policy to try to make the use > of UNRELEASED in debian/changelog more consistent. The full diff can be > found here [1]. > > The problem this tries to solves is inconsistent use of UNRELEASED in > debian/changelog. Some people do not use it at all, and it can make > working on team packages harder. > > Indeed, if you try to modify a package, if people don't use UNRELEASED, > you first need to check if the current VCS version has been uploaded to > the archive or not. This complicates the life of people doing mass > updates, as they can't rely on packages with `unstable` having been > uploaded. > > This be can seen for example in the latest batch of updates by onovy, > where new versions of a package were made instead of marking changes as > addition to a yet to be released version, because some packages were > marked `unstable` but hadn't been uploaded. > > I don't think it's a lot to ask and will surely make team contributions > more pleasant :) > > Yes, +1 for this please. Cheers, eamanu Cheers, > > [1]: > > https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/-/merge_request= s/15 > > -- > =E2=A2=80=E2=A3=B4=E2=A0=BE=E2=A0=BB=E2=A2=B6=E2=A3=A6=E2=A0=80 > =E2=A3=BE=E2=A0=81=E2=A2=A0=E2=A0=92=E2=A0=80=E2=A3=BF=E2=A1=81 Louis-= Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau > =E2=A2=BF=E2=A1=84=E2=A0=98=E2=A0=B7=E2=A0=9A=E2=A0=8B pollo@debian.o= rg / veronneau.org > =E2=A0=88=E2=A0=B3=E2=A3=84 > > --000000000000cfbf1905b054d6ee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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El dom., 27 de sep. de 2020 a la(s) 21:08, Louis-Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau = (pollo@debian.org) escribi=C3=B3:
Hi!

I am proposing a minor addition to the DPT policy to try to make the use of UNRELEASED in debian/changelog more consistent. The full diff can be
found here [1].

The problem this tries to solves is inconsistent use of UNRELEASED in
debian/changelog. Some people do not use it at all, and it can make
working on team packages harder.

Indeed, if you try to modify a package, if people don't use UNRELEASED,=
you first need to check if the current VCS version has been uploaded to
the archive or not. This complicates the life of people doing mass
updates, as they can't rely on packages with `unstable` having been
uploaded.

This be can seen for example in the latest batch of updates by onovy,
where new versions of a package were made instead of marking changes as
addition to a yet to be released version, because some packages were
marked `unstable` but hadn't been uploaded.

I don't think it's a lot to ask and will surely make team contribut= ions
more pleasant :)


Yes, +1 for this please.

Cheers,=C2=A0
eamanu

Cheers,

[1]:
https://salsa.debian.or= g/python-team/tools/python-modules/-/merge_requests/15

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