Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Disparaging people's motivation to contribute to Debian was: Re: packaging DiscoDOS - a cli tool for vinyl DJs Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 22:50:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Fri May 15 20:42:29 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Old-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1589575332; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=OgmikY4F4aDPImE9DqyCaRxr26K2FMOIxgxPSZ9OhKU=; b=vaSM/YP+//Hgl7Sujn3ToMj2i11+R4zlrj0nXEqiVssv+Y8Lq6773pmkXqc1FmKj2d0Hs 4FlJ3lZvTCNesYDDw== Old-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1589575332; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=OgmikY4F4aDPImE9DqyCaRxr26K2FMOIxgxPSZ9OhKU=; b=gty+N4/NjiS9/FnE+wXfnoR9DKNVrSadq5M/AO1P/0x87nKo2LicYZz4sa2lBvznzOloK AtFNdzxlgb3ViEOOpx6CN+vNPj9Sp9xViHdaquxjuPnh12BMhzK69J2PKV8DWa20bdCmKJi ZFUhX6aJogrS28A3jIsGgI8n62ClPEstemqf7zawyEdh6xBZasyF+47wkVLTa7yjO60I1KZ w2/sO0FDpTC8h0j2GJb126yi3n1YyvLn4SXIMb3L6b9wxMiJX+/ZqaG3KRMe7D7XuEcaala /Xnmywjx/qgVYWGkrF24y0bavUd45LrrduH+RSAVB+4pukNP3Z9Vx559ajFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3434818.JdQngDxA5b"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18287 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/3040950.gYiiKSSVtx@sk-desktop Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 73 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 16:42:08 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <3040950.gYiiKSSVtx@sk-desktop> X-Original-References: <4454166.g2aXcjTTPS@sk-desktop> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12589 --nextPart3434818.JdQngDxA5b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Friday, May 15, 2020 4:36:52 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 5/15/20 7:09 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Friday, May 15, 2020 12:55:48 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 5/15/20 5:43 PM, jojo wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'd like to join the list because I think my software is a valuable > >>> addition to the debian universe, my ultimate goal would be to bring it > >>> into Ubuntu Studio because it is music-related. > >> > >> I really think it's a shame that people join Debian just because of > >> Ubuntu... :( > > > > Thomas, > > > > Ask yourself if you are modelling being a member of a welcoming community > > here? > > > > There are lots of examples of people who initially became interested in > > Debian via Ubuntu and are good Debian contributors and project members. > > > > You are free to think whatever you want, but I don't think this kind of > > sentiment has any place on Debian lists. > > > > Scott K > > This was kind of rhetorical, and it is my believe that if it is the way > it is, *we* are at fault, globally in Debian. I'm just not sure how to > fix that. I BTW don't agree with you, and IMO, this has some place on > the Debian lists. Having Debian (directly) appealing to everyone is very > important topic. > > Of course, Jojo is very much welcome, and I'm sorry that you take it > this way. I've pointed at many docs to help, so I very much believe he > knows I warmly welcome him. > > Cheers, > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) If you don't actually think it's a shame he wants to participate in Debian, it might be better not to say so. I think your response it logically disjoint from your original mail, so I don't see any point in further conversation on the matter. Scott K --nextPart3434818.JdQngDxA5b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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