Path: csiph.com!4.us.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Thu Apr 30 09:53:54 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.7 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, CAPINIT=0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1588240416; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : from : message-id : from; bh=lGVmhQRf6dsSjNDKPS1uBW5H05QLJeVV9WQRGaPysBM=; b=QNsdFwlpAXdP55uNwXzqELfD0S4I9ewYsrZucNen5I+rugxVnFg6r7WcMOV3IeXYa0h3w nU2HmtSiHL59g4gCg== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1588240416; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : from : message-id : from; bh=lGVmhQRf6dsSjNDKPS1uBW5H05QLJeVV9WQRGaPysBM=; b=UAxBlLC2tJCmbhCTMQwh7FjTufDrardvQDO0kd1/+94oGPao97PD6rKjwCU1/U4sBExku m74e3dnBbuuVHPuqFETYYLRdv2zXwXjWfJil/x/fILM9JtNFQr0hftBt5IXVNipezTFWMH0 ceiNGQjFQ6fJy2+E/C619LOUJ5/mJDQoR77VGqy6tJLmT9mM++e7RSAr5Nc8COcQkA7016G e87NfQ7A/p9tHPEq+e17Jmck4Z864z4K67YGCfdkWhCA3IC7BlZDKPmsKKvXLLQMfabT6Ai V4J8vffPm02kHSdGhqPGlCrRoyoP4hMY8EBPk56EmrpFU5wAvSBISl6GZCxg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18224 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/9F008A2F-1394-4F62-9EA2-A420CB1EDBCA@kitterman.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 43 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:53:33 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <9F008A2F-1394-4F62-9EA2-A420CB1EDBCA@kitterman.com> X-Original-References: <2045632.ZOD33WiUoI@sk-desktop> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12540 On April 30, 2020 7:21:39 AM UTC, Matthias Klose wrote= : >On 4/30/20 5:28 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> I think Python policy changes should be discussed=2E I accidentally >committed a=20 >> change to git [1] (I didn't realize I still had access, I thought it >would be=20 >> a merge request) to allow Python 3 only wheels for packages that >require=20 >> wheels, but that no longer support Python 2=2E This is going to happen >the next=20 >> time I upload python-pip since the current version of setuptools is >python3=20 >> only=2E > >this is not true=2E python-setuptools is still built from the source >packages >python-setuptools=2E Is there a reason that you cannot use it? In the short run, the blocker is that dirtbike doesn't support it=2E In t= he longer run I think adding back python2 dependencies is not a good idea= =2E At best it's a short-term avoidance mechanism=2E >> Hopefully this won't be controversial=2E There's really no way to >> avoid it=2E > >well, better don't assume that=2E It's true that there is a short-term alternative, but I think it's a waste= of effort to try and implement it=2E At most it only buys you until the n= ext pip vendored lib that we unbundle as a wheel goes python3 only=2E Are you volunteering to rewrite dirtbike so it can make a universal wheel = from python-setuptools? Personally, I'm not interested=2E If you add the word reasonable to my or= iginal statement, I stand bye it=2E =20 Scott K