Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Raymond Wiker Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: ot - snowden, the short version Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 17:57:36 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <060420152050579965%star@sky.net> <5523dd9d$0$44256$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> <552411fc$0$42980$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> <080420151027468641%star@sky.net> <080420151049556091%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7354d8f7f98dbcab7b5eacced10a60db"; logging-data="14692"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4vhIAbTCYjSGU5jhGWTb9" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HoWgrlLF9rD7Pt8fYrHxMiBYC7Y= sha1:nTOTLYpHlaYd2Tdcmx75h9ttpdU= Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:72856 Kurt Ullman writes: > In article <080420151049556091%nospam@nospam.invalid>, > nospam wrote: > >> I >> > Snowden's contractual obligation included defending the United States >> > and its allies against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> >> those enemies would include the nsa itself, for violating the >> constitution. > Exactly where does it violate the Constitution (serious question, > BTW). http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/is-the-nsas-spying-constitutional-it-depends-which-judge-you-ask/282672/ Note that there are actually two contradicting opinions, from two judges, on this, but one of them states that the NSA was indeed acting against the constitution. See also https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline