Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!MIX!Blackbird From: billy@MIX.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Usenet enters the ring! NNTP vs. (Re: POP3 vs. IMAP) Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 17:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <5363472a$0$50666$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix5.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1399744037 22840 166.84.1.5 (10 May 2014 17:47:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 17:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:59248 > Again, it all comes down to who's paying for it. In addition to some > Usenet admin experience, you'd benefit from a bit of ISP experience as > well. So -- would you rather have this... http://preview.tinyurl.com/njxvlaq -or- http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/05/level-3-claims-six-isps-dropping-packets-every-day-over-money-disputes/ | Level 3 claims six ISPs dropping packets every day over money disputes | | Network provider doesn't name and shame ISPs guilty of "permanent | congestion." | | by Jon Brodkin - May 5 2014, 10:25am MST | | Network operator Level 3, which has asked the FCC to protect it from | "arbitrary access charges" that ISPs want in exchange for accepting | Internet traffic, today claimed that six consumer broadband providers | have allowed a state of "permanent congestion" by refusing to upgrade | peering connections for the past year. | | Level 3 and Cogent, another network operator, have been involved in | disputes with ISPs over whether they should pay for the right to send | them traffic. ISPs have demanded payment in exchange for accepting | streaming video and other data that is passed from the network providers | to ISPs and eventually to consumers. | | When the interconnections aren't upgraded, it can lead to congestion and | dropped packets, as we wrote previously regarding a dispute between | Cogent and Verizon. In a blog post today, Level 3 VP Mark Taylor wrote: | | A port that is on average utilized at 90 percent will be saturated, | dropping packets, for several hours a day. We have congested ports | saturated to those levels with 12 of our 51 peers. Six of those 12 | have a single congested port, and we are both (Level 3 and our peer) | in the process of making upgrades--this is business as usual and happens | occasionally as traffic swings around the Internet as customers change | providers. | | That leaves the remaining six peers with congestion on almost all of | the interconnect ports between us. Congestion that is permanent, has | been in place for well over a year and where our peer refuses to augment | capacity. They are deliberately harming the service they deliver to | their paying customers. They are not allowing us to fulfill the requests | their customers make for content. | | Five of those congested peers are in the United States and one is in | Europe. There are none in any other part of the world. All six are large | Broadband consumer networks with a dominant or exclusive market share in | their local market. In countries or markets where consumers have | multiple Broadband choices (like the UK) there are no congested peers. | | [...] ...or a few CDNs co-locate their own servers at your ISP? Billy Y.. -- sub #'9+1 ,r0 ; convert ascii byte add #9.+1 ,r0 ; to an integer bcc 20$ ; not a number