Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!panix!not-for-mail From: Bread Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:54:06 -0700 Organization: lined up neatly Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: <692dnZxJFpV-Nq_NnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <210820120110018980%star@sky.net> <210820121609012624%nospam@nospam.invalid> <210820121929062896%nospam@nospam.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1345766047 2405 127.0.0.1 (23 Aug 2012 23:54:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:54:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Unison/2.1.9 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:29974 comp.mobile.ipad:14784 On 2012-08-23 23:08:27 +0000, Alan Browne said: > On 2012-08-23 18:13 , Bread wrote: >> On 2012-08-23 21:01:58 +0000, Doug Anderson said: >> >>> Alan Browne writes: >>> >>>> >>>> The side effects of iCloud, including de-centralization of my data >>>> from my computer to iCloud is the primary reason I don't want it. >>> >>> I'm not saying you should use iCloud - I don't care what you do. >>> >>> But I'm not quite sure what your objection is. You can use iCloud and >>> continue to have all your data on your computer. > > The point is it loses the 'center' or rather the center moves away from > my main personal computer. Maybe you didn't read what I wrote. The "center" remains your main personal computer. PhotoStream is simply a channel for getting the photos *to* that center. > >> AFAIK, in particular with respect to iCloud and photos, the subsystem is >> called PhotoStream and it works like this: > > Ya know, the fact that you had to explain it over a couple of > paragraphs is probably the best reason why it's not suited to me for > photography of any kind! I suppose. It took me a little while to figure it out, too. But now that I understand it, it looks to me like it will make my life easier than the current system which requires me to copy by hand after I return from a vacation or other period away from my main computer. > > I take in excess of 200 photos per week (casually) and in excess of 200 > / day when I'm on vacation, a trip or a project. And with a camera > that is quite a bit better (ahem) than the iPhone. I don't take quite that many on a daily/weekly basis, but on vacations and when there are family events, the number certainly gets close to what you're describing. And of course, I'm talking about a better camera than my iPhone. > > Only a small amount of that photography is web worthy in any way. So I > use websites, dropbox and e-mail for those. I have no idea what you think "web worthy" has to do with any of this. Nor am I trying to convince you that you should use PhotoStream. I just hope to see a little light go on to indicate that you at least have an idea what it really is. Based on your comments, you really don't, I think. Frankly, until I spent a little bit of time digging, neither did I. I think Apple's done an absolutely lousy job of making it clear what this does and how it would integrate into anyone's workflow.