Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Explore the new system architectire of Apple Silicon Macs Date: 29 Jun 2020 19:14:09 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vc61SYdpae33/0NiZcacFwhi+o+/2Es2gW3doON8C77PU+DHkr Cancel-Lock: sha1:o9YUUwif/1znHsN5YqwoxMGOa94= X-No-Archive: Yes MMail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:133048 On 2020-06-29, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2020-06-29 09:00, Lewis wrote: >> In message Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2020-06-28 19:51, Your Name wrote: >>>> On 2020-06-28 19:44:22 +0000, Alan Baker said: >>>> >>>>> Except for the little fact that Apple designs the chips >>>>> themselves... >>>> >>>> Yep. Techncially ... >>>> >>>> A.  Apple Silicon chips are not ARM chips anyway. They are designed >> >>> ARM do not make chips. The license designs. >> >>>> by Apple, *based on ARM*, and manufactured by TSMC and probably >> >>> They are ARM and Apple pay ARM a license fee for each chip. That >>> Apple have added functionality is beside the point since many >>> licensees add some functionality to their SOC's - if not as much as >>> Apple do - as part of their product integration. >> >> No, this is very wrong. Apple is designing their own chips from the >> ground up. They are licensing the ARM instruction set, not ship >> design. > > I doubt it very much, but please post definitive proof. LOL... Get a load of this guy. : D -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR