Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple Pay Exposes Insecure Bank Policies Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 05:32:50 +1100 Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: <200320151703579843%michelle@michelle.org> <210320151057120048%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net Wd45fXJWuamT46oYuOvL9A6w7e9khqMeuDykChJ+jpvboJ4mc= Cancel-Lock: sha1:cKCFLhEL8vNKo/53VDb47POQs8c= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.ipad:46728 comp.sys.mac.system:71750 Király wrote > Apple's fault or the banks' fault- who cares whose fault it is? > I have rediscovered cash for making purchases More fool you. > - it's quick, Pigs arse it is when the operation you are paying doesn’t have the change or you don’t have enough cash in your pocket/wallet. > convenient, Pigs arse it is when the operation you are paying doesn’t have the change or you don’t have enough cash in your pocket/wallet. > secure, Pigs arse it is. And thief can mug you and steal all your cash. If someone does that with my card, I don’t lose a thing. > accepted everywhere, Pigs arse it is. Try renting a car with cash and see how far you get. > and it works when the power goes out or the network goes down. Doesn’t happen often enough to matter and makes no sense to be farting around with cash with every transaction instead of just having some cash available for when those uncommon events actually happen. > I got to go to the front of the line at the grocery > store because I had cash during a network outage. You get that result if you only use cash in that situation too. > Almost nobody else in the store could buy their food. > They all had dumbfounded, panicked looks on their faces. Like hell they did, they were just pissed off, not panicked. > The network outage, which lasted for more than an hour all > over the city, was the top story on the local news that night. Makes no sense to be farting around with cash all the time just because that happened once in 10 years. > I don't understand people who won't carry any cash with them > because they're afraid of losing it or being mugged of it. That isn't the only thing you don’t understand. > So instead they flash around their $700 > iPhone everywhere they go...? Huh? Which is covered by their insurance if they do get robbed of it. > Rediscover cash No thanks. I still use it for garage/yard sales and the farmer's market, and which I could just wave the phone instead. > - you'll be glad you did. Wrong.