Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Curious - SMS / Mac Date: 11 Jan 2015 18:03:36 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <54b29c11$0$58677$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> X-Trace: individual.net JEG+I661mqL6mrWsWQlZKAaZDebVoLJRnKeikRa2McI91O94sc Cancel-Lock: sha1:Oww9x/AbP5OW225I0yFGpORB/q4= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:68255 On 2015-01-11, Ant wrote: > On 1/11/2015 8:02 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>> Rough path: >>>> My Mac -> Apple (Xing international border; cc: CSIS, NSA) >>>> Apple -> my iPhone (Xing international border; cc: NSA, CSIS) >>>> my iPhone (SMS) -> my cellco. >>>> my cellco -> his cellco. >>>> his cellco -> his android. >>> >>> Is it documented that the flow goes through the Apple servers instead of >>> the Mac connecting directly to the iPhone ? >>> >>> I was thinking that the Mac and iPhone would get to know about each >>> other's IP address via Bonjour on the LAN and then exchange data directly. >>> >>> However, if it worked with a phone outside of the LAN, I guess Apple is >>> involved in some way. >> >> It does go through Apple, and it is encrypted. > > But does Apple have access to them even with warrants? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR