Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Has Apple's software quality declined? Date: 23 Dec 2014 04:49:43 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <1lx21z9.hefq1nk0e3euN%nmassello@yahoo.com> <66SdnYkJnLfFLwXJnZ2dnUU7-ImdnZ2d@giganews.com> X-Trace: individual.net gHYcMopcB9spbCSbYYLPBgBRlPVp+cXIBOZD0dgRR0tTpNFvf9 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qxCRWTEz5wO195JIOIepgGIXRjc= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:67770 On 2014-12-23, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2014.12.22 17:50 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2014-12-22, Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2014.12.22 15:12 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> On 2014-12-22, Neill Massello wrote: >>>>> Anthony Wing Kosner has a pretty good article at Forbes about problems >>>>> with Apple's recent OS releases. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Where's the data to back up the assertion that quality is actually >>>> declining as opposed to some blogger simply having selective / faulty >>>> memory? >>> >>> Faulty memory? Have you forgotten: >>> 8.0 WiFi issues. >>> 8.0.1 WiFi fix that made things much, much worse. >> >> You're conveniently ignoring all the other major snafus that have come >> and gone in the past. Or have have you forgotten all the issues that >> came before those? The faulty memory has to do with forgetting all the >> other bugs that have been present in all the other software updates >> going all the way back to Classic Mac OS. Have you gone back and >> quantified all of those, or do you contend those never happened at all? > > As usual you find a convenient way to say it ain't so. Whatever floats > your fleet. Wrong. What I'm saying is the author of the article has not proven his assertion that quality is declining. And neither have you. > > Absent of that, what I hear is people saying they wish these issues > > wouldn't happen at all, which is a pipe dream. Shit happens. No software > > is without bugs, and *most* are avoidable with enough time and money. > > That's just the way it is. > > Never said different. OTHO, per the article, developers are seeing a > worsening of bugs (frequency, impact). Which could very well be selective / short memory on the part of developers. All any of you who say there is a decline have to do is show some evidence of a trend and I'll be perfectly happy to capitulate. Until then, you, and the author of the article, are blowing hot air. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR