Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Unwanted Focus switches Date: 20 Jun 2014 00:00:00 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <190620141151405415%nospam@nospam.invalid> <190620141249434379%nospam@nospam.invalid> <190620141322121341%nospam@nospam.invalid> X-Trace: individual.net KpPGVNrX/oVj3Ugrcc7OnApZqMHSk3Hr2UeA7s+XJZ1jgPqCo/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:yXgCKC8tzAB4T+bisZcMcgxJA48= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:61154 On 2014-06-19, John wrote: > On 19 Jun 2014 17:39:51 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > >>On 2014-06-19, nospam wrote: >>> In article , Jolly Roger >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> Occasionally I'm typing away (say here or in Excel or Word or the Chrome >>>> >> >> address/searchbar or whatever) and the focus switches suddenly out of >>>> >> >> the window that I'm in. The app I'm in remains the front app (on the >>>> >> >> menu bar) but the RYG 'lights' go off and then there are error bings as >>>> >> >> I continue typing. Have to mouse back into where I was to continue. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Irritating. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> I'm pretty sure I'm not causing it by hitting a modifier key. >>>> >> >> Does this happen to anyone else? Any causes known? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > it's a longstanding bug in os x. >>>> >> >>>> >> Indeed? >>>> > >>>> > yes indeed and apple considers it to be a feature. >>>> >>>> Citation please (of both it being an Apple bug and Apple considering it >>>> to be a feature). >>> >>> i reported it to apple nearly 15 years ago in 10.1. i am not going to >>> look up the radar# and i wasn't the first to have reported it either. >> >>I've noticed you have been saying this for years without backing it up, >>which is why I am asking for evidence now. >> >>The fact that you submitted a mysterious bug report does not mean there >>is an actual bug in the OS. Do you have actual evidence of your >>assertion that this is a long-standing bug in OS X? >> >>> i got their standard bullshit reply, 'works as designed.' >> >>The fact that they gave you the boilerplate "works as designed" response >>does not necessarily mean that the behavior you described in the bug >>report is "considered to be a feature". And without knowing more about >>this supposed bug report, once legitimately can't claim otherwise. >> >>You have so far given insufficient actual evidence of your assertion. > > Truthfully, if you know where to look [I do not nor do I care to find > out] he has given sufficient information to track his claim down. Just > go to the archives of bug reports for OS X and look for his name or > some vague description of the issue. A bug report is not evidence that (a) it's a bug, nor (b) that the bug is in OS X, nor (c) that Apple considers it working as designed. > It's far too much like work or I would do it, so I'll leave it to > someone with more time, energy and determination to prove him a liar. You have made an unfortunately common fallacy. The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion. He made the assertion - not me. Therefore it is *his* job to provide evidence backing his assertion. My only responsibility in this matter is to ask for evidence proving his assertion. > It is of course always possible that nospam's description of the > "bug" was badly misinterpreted by Apple and what they *thought* he was > saying sounded to them like how the OS is supposed to work. Maybe if > he tried again, with a better description, they could see it *as* a > bug. Yep. > Some years ago, nospam could have been a newbie and may not have > known the correct terminology to describe what he was seeing in a > properly technically meaningful manner. > In short, he could be right, and wrong. Yep. And without any evidence, we will assume he is neither right or wrong, and simply talking out of his ass. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR