Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Tim Cook chooses social resonsibility Date: 2 Mar 2014 03:07:48 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <010320140915170326%michelle@michelle.org> <010320141027320466%michelle@michelle.org> <531279ff$0$46373$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com> <53129a6f$0$59741$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> X-Trace: individual.net whAMawmC1GiVE3lJCZyfJQkEHSyEuziAyMQwVVyaC09ek69s/t Cancel-Lock: sha1:KJ/v+MlWFM5EyjbsPdFZINg3CTM= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:57324 On 2014-03-02, JF Mezei wrote: > On 14-03-01 20:47, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> From what I've read, Apple actually does more than any other similar >> company to reduce underpaid and overworked labor. > > Apple requires this underpaid and overworked labour to remain > competitive. So its PR steps are not to end it or fix it, it is only to > give the appearance of doing something about it. Your assertion doesn't match up with the fact that Apple does more than their competitors. You'll need to do more than just spout hot air for me to believe what you are saying. >> come to expect you to ignore that and shed this in the worst possible >> light you can muster. Your trolling is transparent. > > Debate does not happen if differences in opinion are not tolerated. I tolerate it and call it what it is: trolling. >> And you'd certainly know that, with your astounding intimate knowledge >> of everything he does inside Apple's secretive halls. As if... > > Unless you work in Tim Cook's office, you know as much as I do about > him. Sorry to insult you, but your speculation has as much value as mine. I'm not the one speculating. You are. And so far, you haven't given any proof that your speculation is based on reality. >> No surprise there. Just about everything about Apple is "unclear" and >> "uncertain" to you. You must make that statement every day of your life >> (often right here on Usenet). > > Apple is very secretive. (whether justified of not is not the question). > So pundits have to speculate based on small hints that Apple allows to > escape. And that goes for the Wall Street Casino Analysts too. You aren't a pundit - just some dude on the net spouting hot air. >> As always, your trollish attempt to shed all things Apple in a bad light >> are completely transparent. > > And your attempts to portray Apple as a nice friendly sensitive company > are naive. AAPL is a corporation, and it has financial imperatives and > PR imperatives. Believing that its PR initiatives are "benevolent" is > quite naive. It is all about corporate image to increase sales, brand > image etc. It is very calculated business decision. Nope, but unlike you, I am able to imagine that the people working for Apple actually do care about certain principles. >> According to your take, it couldn't possibly >> be that Apple's employees actually care about these things; > > Apple employees have no control or say on those PR exercises. > Marketing/PR department does. And it likely reports directly to Cook. As if you would know. You're full of hot air, and you are trolling. You are transparent. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR