Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Latest IOS/OS X SSL security flaw Date: 22 Feb 2014 22:19:50 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net LVZ951nk4avsIV0utbwwDgya6HnE3gGypuDpnB3hQOb99/F/rV Cancel-Lock: sha1:dWxOkzdHicwNK2PzxCQFFjzytlo= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:56860 On 2014-02-22, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Alan Browne writes: >> Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>> Alan Browne writes: >>>> The word "only" is not required to keep that sentence restrained to >>>> the case described. And logically, to be MitM, one has to be "inside" >>>> the router/WiFi firewall. >>> >>> MITM refers to an attacker capable of reading, deleting, modifying and >>> synthesizing messages between legitimate actors. See, for instance, >>> s3.1 of Applied Cryptography for more detail. It is not limited to any >>> particular network configuration. >> >> Fair enough. OTOH It's pretty clear in this case that the MitM has to >> within your network. > > The opposite is clear. I’ve listed several possible mechanisms for > actually carrying out the MITM element in a previous post. They are not > speculation. As just one example, see: > http://www.renesys.com/2013/11/mitm-internet-hijacking/ > for multiple recent observations of BGP-based active interception. Great writeup. Thanks. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR