Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: android Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:47:55 +0100 Organization: thecenter Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <7hbnymytl5.fsf@ethel.the.log> <050220141213207821%nospam@nospam.invalid> <3f-dnZBmyp8TXm_PnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@giganews.com> <050220141819396589%nospam@nospam.invalid> <050220142140460582%nospam@nospam.invalid> <2014020523213641363-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> X-Trace: individual.net ZNotFnLYfRM3JGP10xEH0wpb0O//7VcikSKrCJBFXUkBWKyN4t X-Orig-Path: here Cancel-Lock: sha1:+98CpzX5Lgea3dRZb98vvxjdRWU= User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:56126 In article <2014020523213641363-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck wrote: > On 2014-02-06 02:40:46 +0000, nospam said: > > > In article , Alan Browne > > wrote: > > > >>>>>> The mere mention of monster cable drives me up the wall. Its use makes > >>>>>> no sense to me at all. Correct me if I am wrong, but monster cable is > >>>>>> what is called litz wire. It is a way of minimizing skin and proximity > >>>>>> effects in large conductors. Its only effect is to lower resistance in > >>>>>> the cable at high frequencies. for most people above the age of 20 it > >>>>>> would make no difference. A little high frequency boost would > >>>>>> compensate > >>>>>> for the extra loss. > >>>>> > >>>>> there is no skin effect at audio frequencies. > >>>> > >>>> There is a skin effect at any frequency. > >>> > >>> when the skin effect is thicker than the wire itself, it makes no > >>> difference whatsoever, which is the case for speaker wire. > >>> > >>>> The issue is whether it > >>>> affects audio performance. It does not. > >>> > >>> of course not. it doesn't affect anything because the wire is thinner > >>> than the skin depth. > >>> > >>>> (Eg: power lines (50/60 Hz) have stainless steel cores (which do not > >>>> conduct well) for strength and aluminum conductor layers outside. The > >>>> skin effect pushes most of the current through the outer layers so there > >>>> is less overall material by using stronger stainless steel in the core > >>>> where there is less current. Also why many high voltage transmission > >>>> lines (750 kV) use 2 or 3 or 4 conductors on each phase - the air gap is > >>>> "inside the skin" of the conductors). > >>> > >>> power lines are very different than stranded speaker wire. > >> > >> Not for the subject at hand - skin effect. > > > >> You said "there is no skin effect at audio frequencies." > >> > >> Which is wrong all the way to the lowest audible frequencies and below. > > > > not on speaker cables it isn't, which is the topic. > > > > this isn't about high voltage power distribution and you know it. > > Do you have any solutions for resolving the issue of the drought in > California? > I just thought I would tap into that well of encyclopedic wisdom that > is "nospam". There was some pondering in Saudi about importing icebergs from Antarctica... Too something 4 them! Just being helpful 'n stuff... -- teleportation kills https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6mheuok6a15nzfd/CfBx9UCovc/android