Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Security Scare ? Date: 24 Nov 2013 18:26:57 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: individual.net 7/jSv6H2Y1o538LYeSJXBAjjvTd9V7peAWlsCSrD3um7uf79dL Cancel-Lock: sha1:KdoX+VOeJ/toj/DgReAAEJDbkSk= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:52604 On 2013-11-24, Wes Groleau wrote: > On 11-24-2013, 12:09, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2013-11-24, Alan Browne wrote: >>> >>> I doubt it's a hoax given the credrep of the fellow (as claimed by Ars, >>> anyway), but the "denier" experts should be supporting Ruiu's search >>> rather than dismissing it as seems to be the case in some commentaries. >> >> IMO, the proper position at the start of any scientific endevour is >> skepticism. It is up to Ruiu to prove his claims. Otherwise, the world >> will no doubt rightfully call bullshit. > > He apparently is "cooperating fully" but no one has succeeded in > reproducing his observations. > > On the other hand, I read at least one skeptic with not very convincing > arguments that the scenario is completely impossible. What makes his claims interesting is that it does seem possible. > There are skeptics who help advance knowledge, and there are skeptics > who just attack. Nevertheless, skepticism is healthy. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR