Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:00:20 +1100 Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <5250973a$0$49433$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> <051020132312255407%invid@loclanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ks_c_5601-1987"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net i9iV9hZGzKcjrMY1+RSzBQYCszKn1ddDPmU47EPPwrJWqn4zY= Cancel-Lock: sha1:3e7+BpGItOCd/D8XoiCmwRI5aPk= In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.ipad:28073 comp.sys.mac.system:49602 George Kerby wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Jolly Roger wrote >>> Rod Speed wrote >>>> Jolly Roger wrote >>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>> Invid Fan wrote >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>>>> Or realises that it's a mature market now and isnt >>>>>>>> even trying to find a radical new product anymore. >>>>>>> Oh, I'm sure they're working on SOMETHING, >>>>>> Sure, but not a radical new product. >>>>> Like you know. >>>> Yep, because there are no radical new products that are going >>>> to show up any time soon, that we don©öt know about already. >>> Like you can predict the future. >> Don¡¯t need to predict the future, just look at what Apple has ever done. >> There are in fact very few radical new products that ever come out >> of an industry major. Xerox Parc is one of the very few examples of >> that and Apple has never done anything like that. All its ever done >> is see what others have already produced radical new product wise >> and done a hell of job of producing a viable consumer product. > And you are telling us that the iPod and it's > ecosystem was NOT a radical new product?!? The ipod clearly was not given the media players already around. Like I said ALL Apple EVER does is take an existing product and do a hell of a job of producing a viable consumer product. In this case both with the hardware and the convenient way of buying stuff for it. Its not as if even the 'ecosystem' of the ipod was a radically new product either given that we had already been able to buy mp3s on the net before the ipod showed up. Like I said, ALL Apple did was do a hell of a job of improving the user interface stuff with both. > Gimme a BREAK already! You don¡¯t qualify for any BREAK.