Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Rod Speed" Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:00:57 +1100 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <5250973a$0$49433$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> <051020132312255407%invid@loclanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 4yyB6B6n/M6Q2mx2BhvkFQEpWhhQRZFIe8WjcxIt2lRlhTtSQ= Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ay8tqTWyg4NNH9/H2cRrEZY63l0= In-Reply-To: <051020132312255407%invid@loclanet.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.ipad:28051 comp.sys.mac.system:49510 Invid Fan wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> Or realises that it's a mature market now and isnt >> even trying to find a radical new product anymore. > Oh, I'm sure they're working on SOMETHING, Sure, but not a radical new product. They have never had one of those since the original computer and then the Mac. Everything since then has just been doing much better what is already a buyable product and very late with the iphone too. > some product that might not be ready for another decade. I don't think that is at all likely. They have never done that before. Even the original computer wasn't that either. > You say "mature market" as if there is > only one market Apple is dealing with. No, I was talking about all the markets that Apple is involved in and others that are likely markets that Apple might be interested in. > Somewhere in Apple, a team is coming up > with new products others haven't tried yet. I don't believe that given that they never have done anything like that. > Somewhere else in Apple, they're looking at products that have flopped in > the past and seeing if they can finally get them good enough to be a > success. Sure, but there isnt any real evidence that Apple has ever come up with a viable product that way. Even Siri isn't anything like that. The original Mac GUI wasn't either. > They have the money, and tradition, to take the long view of development. Sure, but that hasn't produced anything radically new. > To not, for example, release an unready Newton, but instead keep > products in development until they actually are consumer ready. They didn't even do that with the ipod or iphone or ipad or Mac.