Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Cybe R. Wizard" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mint Subject: Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 09:08:31 -0500 Organization: Inner-Dementia-Null Consortium Of Wizardly Dudes Lines: 109 Message-ID: <20150508090831.6cb92aac@wizardstower> References: <4bb6c$553a0184$43da7656$15582@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> <020520151413399505%timstreater@greenbee.net> <020520150628182303%michelle@michelle.org> <060520150929077812%YourName@YourISP.com> <070520150925418048%YourName@YourISP.com> <-YmdnalZMKg4_NbInZ2dnUU7-UWdnZ2d@supernews.com> <080520151336423127%YourName@YourISP.com> <0Nmdnc-E6eLAidHInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com> <080520151616422786%YourName@YourISP.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b7e20ada98274069f275b73735153269"; logging-data="31080"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19yPRl3fqZ7Ra947gnVbcJs" X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Face: 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 Cancel-Lock: sha1:GjOSwKAF8spjOHHqDzosmGzQpN0= Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:75141 On Fri, 08 May 2015 09:55:17 -0400 Caver1 wrote: > On 05/08/2015 12:16 AM, Your Name wrote: > > In article <0Nmdnc-E6eLAidHInZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Marek > > Novotny wrote: > >> On 2015-05-08, Your Name wrote: > >>> In article , Alan Baker > >>> wrote: > >>>> On 2015-05-07 20:35:30 +0000, Marek Novotny said: > >>>>> On 2015-05-07, Alan Baker wrote: > >>>>>> On 2015-05-07 20:06:05 +0000, Marek Novotny said: > >>>>>>> On 2015-05-07, Alan Baker wrote: > >>>>>>>> On 2015-05-07 19:55:48 +0000, Marek Novotny said: > >>>>>>>>> On 2015-05-07, Alan Baker wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Mac OS X Server costs $20USD > >>>>>>>>>> Takes almost zero time to administer. > >>>>>>>>>> Almost never goes down. > >>>>>>>>>> That is my real world experience of the last 10 years and > >>>>>>>>>> a leading cause of my diminishing customer base: after I > >>>>>>>>>> get them set up, they don't need me to do ANYTHING for > >>>>>>>>>> years at a time. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So is Apple running Oracle on Macs in their own Data > >>>>>>>>> Centers or something else? :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Is Pixar running XEONs on Linux in their Renderfarm or Macs? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Go Google it Google boy. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Horses for courses, Marek. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Where you want cheap computation per dollar: sure Linux is > >>>>>>>> very good... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ...but not ever server situation involves thousands of > >>>>>>>> essentially identical nodes. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Gosh, what happened to the XServe and XRaid.. Oh that's > >>>>>>> right, they were both discontinued. Must have been due to > >>>>>>> high demand. LOL. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What works for Apple the company is irrelevant to what works > >>>>>> for customers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Apple sells 18 million Macs a year and they concentrate on > >>>>>> making configurations that they can sell in high volume. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fact: companies exist SPECIFICALLY for Mac server colocation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Think about that for a moment, Linux boy. > >>>>> > >>>>> LOL, yeah I'm sure a few exist. I can still buy an Amiga if I > >>>>> want to. A company exists for the sole purpose of the Amiga > >>>>> too. LOL. > >>>> > >>>> Yup. Quite a "few"... > >>>> > >>>> ...and each hosting hundreds if not thousands of Mac servers. > >>>> > >>>> :-) > >>> > >>> You can't buy an "Amiga" at all. What you can do is buy a PC > >>> clone box with Amiga OS installed on it, or buy the Amiga OS > >>> separately to install on any PC clone box. The real Amiga > >>> computer is long dead. > >> > >> And yet a company exists for the sole purpose of selling me an > >> Amiga. Just as I said. > > > > It's *not* actually an Amiga by any stretch of the imagination. > > There's a company that will sell you a "Commodore 64" as well, but > > that's not a real Commodore 64 either. > > > > Simply shovelling the OS or an emulator onto a random PC box doesn't > > actually make it that computer ... otherwise I could claim my G3 > > PowerMac is a Mac, a Windows PC, a C64, a VIC20, an Amiga, a > > Gameboy, an NES, ... > > > > So you are trying to say that a PC sold with Windows, switched to > Linux is not a Linux PC? > By his reasoning Apple computers aren't Apple computers, but Winduhs computers, since the switch to Intel processors. From: ---------- August 28, 2009: Apple ships Mac OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard," which is the first OS X version that does not support the PowerPC family computers. March 1, 2011: The beta version of the then-upcoming Mac OS X Lion drops "Rosetta" and will not be able to run PowerPC based software.[10] July 20, 2011: The release of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion formally ends Apple's support of PowerPC-based software. August 7, 2013: The Power Mac G5 reaches "old" status having been discontinued seven years earlier, ending Apple's service and parts support for PowerPC hardware. PowerPC Macs reached "obsolete" status throughout 2013. ---------- Cybe R. Wizard -- Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326 Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136