Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michelle Steiner Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:35:26 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <061120131335266187%foo@bar.com> References: <061120130840230696%foo@bar.com> <061120131050133286%foo@bar.com> <061120131213192462%foo@bar.com> <061120131420163610%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8b819003531285591ae70ba618133493"; logging-data="30269"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/eZpHJG6zmceR/RWiU0qKbZjn0R7EArw0=" User-Agent: Thoth/1.9.0 (Mac OS X) Cancel-Lock: sha1:On17nw8Imx2+6msRyfdA9Lk7eK4= Mail-Copies-To: nobody Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.ipad:28741 comp.sys.mac.system:51933 In article <061120131420163610%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam wrote: > > > Unless the data that you store on Apple's "cloud" servers is completely > > > devoid of any private data, they're collecting it, even if it's simply a > > > side effect of storing it. > > > > There's a difference between storing and collecting. For example, if I > > rent a storage bay at a storage company, I'd be storing stuff in it, > > but the storage company wouldn't be collecting it. > > they can open your locker if they have a reason, or if the cops show up > with a warrant. That's not the same as them collecting it. > > > Once the data is on Apple's systems, it's subject to examination > > > by the government, for almost any reason. > > > > Nope. Did you bother to read the pdf I linked in the original message > > in this thread? > > you ought to read it first. although may question some of the requests, > they still comply with them. they have to. I did. Did you?