Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michelle Steiner Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:23:03 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <061120131123031500%foo@bar.com> References: <061120130840230696%foo@bar.com> <061120131050133286%foo@bar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8b819003531285591ae70ba618133493"; logging-data="10070"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Hk3ac2TK+OJl2kpOzfA1fmUhrAOsmunA=" User-Agent: Thoth/1.9.0 (Mac OS X) Cancel-Lock: sha1:M8sBjr0k6aNiS2NVUDLu58iRSEo= Mail-Copies-To: nobody Xref: csiph.com comp.mobile.ipad:28733 comp.sys.mac.system:51928 In article , Rod Speed wrote: > >>> Quite interesting. Apple is on the side of privacy. > > >> Apple is on the side of Apple. If they were truly on the side > >> of privacy, they wouldn't be trying to force iCloud on people. > >> Because, you know, the first step in protecting your customer's > >> private information is to not collect it in the first place. > > > What makes you think that Apple is collecting > > private information on people? > > They obviously are when you can only do some things > using icloud that used to be possible by usb and local > wifi when they know they get lots of requests by govt > for that private information. No, it is not at all obvious, but paranoids can't see that it isn't obvious, and Apple haters will accuse Apple of it on general principles.