Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Sandman Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Date: 15 Jun 2014 13:49:25 GMT Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <110620140934273352%michelle@michelle.org> <0ZWdnTjR9K4q2QfOnZ2dnUVZ_vEAAAAA@giganews.com> <140620141504092126%timstreater@greenbee.net> <140620141535214459%timstreater@greenbee.net> <140620141742040671%timstreater@greenbee.net> <150620140931147701%timstreater@greenbee.net> <150620141317251942%timstreater@greenbee.net> X-Trace: individual.net XfHC8+rOhLcW1MP5tYsJ1gzHOwznJlEMQqCskTNwxX427A3k0= Cancel-Lock: sha1:LbfxX9woU6tuEwpKBU9l6fWqo3s= User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.apps:22957 comp.sys.mac.system:60986 In article <150620141317251942%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater wrote: > > > Tim Streater: > > > The "putting her money where her mouth is" refers to her having > > > an opportunity to do something for the environment (by getting > > > her car fixed). That she wouldn't consider that, shows that her > > > "commitment to the environment" was all talk. > > > > Sandman: > > Not at all. As long as we have no information about what other > > things she may do and a deeper understanding of what her > > commitment entails. It is clear from the anecdote that her > > decision not to get her car fixed was based on economy. She may be > > super-commited to saving the environment while at the same time > > lacking funds to do it by fixing her car. She may be working as a > > volunteer for green peace as far as we know. > > > As I said, the anecdote lacks a thousand information points for > > the reader to take a stance on whether or not she is willing to > > put her money where her mouth is. In short - she may not be able > > to invest in repairs of her car because she has spent all her free > > money building a wind farm. > > Very funny. If she lacked money or had spent it on other > environmental programs then it would have been a poor anecdote to > offer as an analogy. The point is that the anecdote does not provide enough information to be analogous. As I said earlier, these are my statements: 1. I am willing to pay money for a news client 2. I don't want to pay money for Signal First off, you should note here that point 1 and 2 are not in contradiction with each others at all. And in your anecdote, we have: 1. 2. I am not willing to pay money to repair my polluting car See how there's a line of information missing that would make point 2 contradict point 1? > The fact that I concluded with "So much for her > commitment to the environment" made the point. I know nothing about her commitment to the environment or her reasons to not repair her car. -- Sandman[.net]