Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Can't receive mail with a POP account with Yosemite Date: 1 Aug 2014 01:10:15 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <290720141921122706%michelle@michelle.org> <1lplph4.1aa6riw3b6xzeN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <290720142203035392%michelle@michelle.org> <1lply2v.1mjc5fa8wj48aN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <300720140026050344%michelle@michelle.org> <300720140758168260%michelle@michelle.org> <300720140844546166%michelle@michelle.org> <300720141335503522%michelle@michelle.org> X-Trace: individual.net f4ZDP8Gs2vmB/GFefSnodwvpvK3JA76peixHGc4V3YzHDW7tQq Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mu8CAaxuc35kbcTcPUGQHnTVs9E= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.apps:23834 On 2014-07-31, Barry Margolin wrote: > In article , > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2014-07-30, Barry Margolin wrote: >> > >> > If this just started with Yosemite, I guess you should report it to >> > Apple. This is the whole point of being a beta tester, right? You're >> > expecting problems, so you can report them to Apple and they can fix >> > them before the official release. >> >> What would this bug report be, though - that Mail should not be using >> APOP? To me it seems this is working as designed, and the real issue is >> that the *server* is not accepting authentication properly, no? > > I don't have Yosemite, but in Snow Leopard, Password and APOP are > separate choices in the Authentication menu. If the APOP option is gone, > then you can submit a feature request that they add it back. If it's > still there, but she hasn't chosen it, the bug would be that it uses a > different authentication mechanism than the one you configured. > > It may be working as designed, but the design could be wrong. If 3+3 > returns 5, it doesn't become correct just because you document it in the > processor manual. I'm just thinking if Mail is *designed* to use APOP whenever the POP server indicates that it is supported, the bug report will simply be marked as "working as designed". It's worth a shot either way, though. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR