Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Date: 14 Jun 2014 02:18:09 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <9eWdnVQgKbylfg3OnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com> <110620140934273352%michelle@michelle.org> <0ZWdnTjR9K4q2QfOnZ2dnUVZ_vEAAAAA@giganews.com> <1ln8dss.x7ctmsxcilz7N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> X-Trace: individual.net Ky06me1tPlMakBqA6b6+twBZTTqdetaK/EBzK4fCtqDWFA3nmj Cancel-Lock: sha1:TH6DzwC0RrPObakP+a6HpSpEvlw= X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.apps:22859 comp.sys.mac.system:60889 On 2014-06-14, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2014-06-13, Tim McNamara wrote: >> > On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:16:23 -0400, Alan Browne >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2014.06.13, 14:04 , Darrin Doc O'Leary wrote: >> >>> >> >>> For your reference, records indicate that >> >>> Alan Browne wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I'll pledge cash when he pledges skin in the game. >> >>> >> >>> What does that even mean in this context? >> >> >> >> That you take risk on yourself. That is you invest your time and do >> >> such a bangup job that we'll all be willing to buy the product. You >> >> don't even need to manage that part - toss it at the Apple Store. >> > >> > Alan, I am curious as to what you do for a living. Did you get your job >> > by showing up somewhere and starting to work, hoping you'd do such a >> > bangup job that they'd pay you? Did you stop working at some other job >> > to do this, giving up half a year's income to do so? Did you have a >> > mortgage to pay, a family to provide for, car payments, utilities, >> > groceries to buy? Were *you* willing to take the chance that no one >> > would pay you for your time and effort? >> > >> > 'Cuz all those things are what you're asking Doc to do so have "skin in >> > the game." If you didn't have the balls to take that risk on yourself, >> > then you have no standing to expect someone else to do it. >> > >> > It's easy to be an ass. Maybe you should set the bar higher for >> > yourself. >> >> His entire argument so far is petty and weak. > > I think it's clear Doc already has 'skin in the game' (horrible saying > IMO - ugg :-D ) given he's posting here using the software he's working > on. But he's too focused on monetary compensation (1) for Signal to ever > see the light of day, IMO. That's the real problem - not Alan's trollish > focus on Doc's marketing, and trying to pick largely meaningless points > in what he's said. Strongly disagree. There is no problem. The only "problem" I see here is the one folks like you and Alan are trying to manufacture. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR