Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: android Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 19:28:13 +0200 Organization: the center of color Imaging for the color blind probono institute Lines: 71 Message-ID: References: <9eWdnVQgKbylfg3OnZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@giganews.com> X-Trace: individual.net 432jNo6rAt/1atpvffVoLw1RMQYg5j2nvMyJFt9N1FuLAdLxyi X-Orig-Path: here Cancel-Lock: sha1:w4SfHryKbR18gBYBppt3V7eZxeM= User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (Intel Mac OS X) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.apps:22533 comp.sys.mac.system:60511 In article , Tim McNamara wrote: > On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 08:48:20 +0200, android wrote: > > In article , > > Darrin "Doc" O'Leary wrote: > > > >> For your reference, records indicate that Alan Browne > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Then get cracking. > >> > >> I already got cracking. That’s the point of me demoing a prototype > >> for the campaign. A separate framework already exists and works > >> fairly well, but I would still want to to *a lot* of tweaking before > >> releasing it (especially cleaning up the API for public consumption). > >> > >> > Seriously - where the Apple world needs a usenet client is for iOS. > >> > >> Well, unless funding picks up dramatically, they’re not going to get > >> it from me. It seems the economics of the “need” just isn’t in line > >> with the effort involved. Either a lot more people need to get > >> interested in Usenet as a social network, or some entity with funding > >> needs to see how it can be leveraged for a particular goal. And, in > >> the grand scheme of things, the $20K or $50K that it would take is > >> hardly a drop in the bucket compared to some of the projects I’ve > >> worked on that cost much more and achieved so much less. > >> > >> > Your request for funding isn't free either. > >> > >> It’s free in that the result will be free to everyone, and possibly > >> even free to the extent of putting the code in the public domain, and > >> that is *hugely* important when you want to be able to introduce new > >> people to Usenet. That’s a far better deal than having *everyone* > >> pay, like Unison does. Even a non-commercial effort like mine has a > >> non-zero cost. > >> > >> > $20000 is more akin to projects where material and/or tooling is > >> > needed. > >> > >> $20K is the economic reality. If you don’t agree, you’re welcome to > >> pay someone to else to write the software for you. Let me know how > >> much cheaper it ends up being. > > > > Apparently you've fixed something in your code. The post looks OK. Now > > put your app on the market and be done with it. If it's contributing > > something new or are better than existing offerings people outside > > your immediate family might pay for a license to use it! > > Out of curiosity, have you ever written software code? Do you > understand the amount of work that's involved? That's irrelevant here. What is is the value for the end user. > > > It's not like we can't live without your efforts in this area. There > > are other working Usenet/NNTP clients for the Mac out there... > > Yes, and they are all inadequate in one way or another. Signal might > be, too, but we haven't seen that yet. > > I'm always intrigued by the Usenet subculture that is driven to attack > the efforts of others. Nooo.... You wan't a freebee society that Leary renounced earlier this spring. One thousand of licensees paying $25 each gives him $5000 above the target that his set. -- teleportation kills http://tinyurl.com/androidphotography