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Subject: Re: Keeping out Big Brother?
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 07:42:30 +0100
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In article <slrnl73q7o.1rl1.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <l4sk4q$ki3$1@dont-email.me> 
>   Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> > On 10-30-2013, 22:43, Lewis wrote:
> >> In message <barmar-45EEEE.20072530102013@news.eternal-september.org>
> >>    Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >>> In article <l4s6cu$n79$3@dont-email.me>,
> >>>   Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On 10-30-2013, 18:23, Davoud wrote:
> >>>>> Nah. It's someone else guaranteeing what cannot be guaranteed. Hosted
> >>>>> in Iceland? How does it get to Iceland, by trusted courier? And what's
> >>>>> so special about Iceland, anyway? If it's on the Internet, it's subject
> >>>>> to compromise. Get over it, everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> ALLEGEDLY, by being encrypted on your machine before going out.
> >>
> >>> Presumably huge amounts of the data the NSA has gathered was encrypted.
> >>> They have supercomputers dedicated to code-breaking to deal with that.
> >>
> >> Doesn't matter how many computers they have, if you practice good
> >> security, no one is going to read your data for centuries, not even the
> >> NSA.
> 
> > "Unseen" claims to believe that NSA is able to decrypt most of the 'net 
> > traffic now,
> 
> Oh, well, net-traffic. Yeah. They evidently have copies of all the SSL
> keys they want to have and intercept all the unencrypted traffic to
> boot.

Unless the site generate their keys themselves. Then, of course, the 
visitor gets a weird semierror message in their browser. Time to 
breakout that tinfoil?
> 
> I was talking about your own data on your own machine. It is perfectly
> possible to lock it up so the NSA will never see it. But if you want to
> send it out, you better encrypt it before it leaves your machine and
> be sure the person on the other end keeps it encrypted.

Or that biiig family secret might leak into the White House...
-- 
teleportation kills