Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: awanderin Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Best Apple II Diagnostics Programs Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:12:43 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: References: <0a5713a4-a73d-48dc-bd6b-ec538e6dc5ea@googlegroups.com> <302610056396581026.438283mjmahon-aol.com@news.giganews.com> <9b0eeb8b-07fb-45d3-bebe-f2a4b3df8fc5@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3f7daab8c080c0d7ccea7a857596d713"; logging-data="6413"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+okCPavvrFN7b7oFkl3Jw1et5igVI92Zc=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OlVrJlU3AZsIJsBEAAFjJNoQT0M= sha1:C1tQGkgjRiDSguU3EfWoSaPKI3w= Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.apple2:25404 joe.boyle@gmail.com writes: > On Monday, July 29, 2013 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Buckels wrote: >> "Sean Fahey" wrote: >> >Dr. Nick Romano still sells the NIKROM diagnostics, and last I heard, was >> >unhappy they're on Asimov. >> >> Well said young fellah... >> >> I wish that Thomas Fenwick, Jim Goodnow II, and Harry Suckow (the 3 orginal >> principals of Aztec C) had archived all their source code, manuals, >> utilities and released versions and put them in a vault somewhere. >> >> Instead, when they drifted apart, and later when Harry needed the space >> after he closed Manx Software (Aztec C) altogether, it all became somehow >> lost forever to us all. >> >> We could debate the evils of capitalism where MicroSoft became a clear >> winner in the PC C then C++ compiler market after the eventual decline then >> demise of Borland International (now somewhat Embarcadero), and the earlier >> decline and demise of other players like George Eberhardt's (Computer >> Innovations) C80. (George has boxes of stuff for me but no way to get it to >> Canada and needs a friendly US drop-off point). There are many paralells on >> the Apple side as well. And much credit goes to the netizens of csa2 for >> preserving what is left. >> >> The domination of Microsoft and focused target markets may have seemed ok to >> us at the time, but in my mind, products like an MS-DOS based (or Win32 >> based) cross-compiler for the GS would look pretty good right now to some of >> us. I have ORCA C (Had Think C at one point on my IIci.) but I can still >> dream about what could have been. >> >> We can't change history of course, but some of us are doing what we can to >> prevent history from vanishing, and includes Patrick Kane and the Asimov >> team. >> >> I don't know Dr. Romano, nor is it any of my business what he does with his >> intellectual property from an earlier era. In my own case, what I do for >> these old platforms can be freely used with or without attribution (of >> course I would like to be mentioned but at this point who cares! I am not a >> millionaire yet at 60 so it is unlikely that I will ever be... and sitting >> behind a desk is unhealthy for me now, so the potential for one or two sales >> of old stuff will not immortalize me, or provide my family with enough >> groceries to hold-back my work from still being used by anyone who has the >> desire to do so). >> >> So I will now join you... >> >> And commend all others to unselfishly engage in a group shrug... >> >> Having said that, for major works like Ciderpress and AppleWin, I think that >> the fellahs who have contributed are brilliant and should enjoy attribution >> for their efforts and not have others take credit for their unselfish work >> and community service. >> >> Bill > > I realize this thread is two years old, but I am hoping to locate > "Master Diagnostics IIc" as I have a //c exhibiting some ailments and > am looking for the best tools I can find to troubleshoot. > > It's not on asimov anymore and I can't locate it for sale - any leads? > > Joe Perhaps take a look at macgui.com? That site has a good hoard of files. -- Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com