Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.196.98.142.MISMATCH!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:43:19 -0600 From: davy Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers Subject: Re: Paper bubbles Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 19:19:44 -0600 Message-ID: Organization: NNTPGW User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway X-Originating-IP: 77.96.173.175 References: <0001HW.CAD3008C017132FBB038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.CAD3093F01733D28B038C9DF@news.eternal-september.org> Lines: 41 X-Trace: sv3-tYIThtRdLNHfUMeVH0HzwVjJUZCAUR47b5YD3wPuNeZpQm2QnjNuhHLZPQcugMvISrcVF9yPpT3v2QN!sYfkx7XywVpzoB1xg2AAJLgVsRFg1gfECKwrYC2STFjrQxJ4nXZq1YPtaeQy X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Lines: 1 X-Original-Bytes: 2623 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.periphs.printers:755 DaveC;1315293 Wrote: > > The paper is not the kind meant for the heat generated by the fuser > element > > of a laser printer. > > I'm making printed circuit boards (step 1: print circuit image on thin > glossy > magazine paper) following instructions published all over the 'net. Most > of > them suggest this type of paper and I've read no other reports of such > problems. > > Dave Yep, I've used magazine paper too, Sunday paper magazine supplement type paper, that comes out nice n' flat, no bubbling. Could I suggest something? Slip the wife some shopping money then get the clothes iron..... and try the paper you are having problems with, *but do* use a piece of greaseproof paper or kitchen towel between the paper and iron... just to prevent any marks on the iron - you'll need a pretty high setting, just hold it on for a few seconds til the paper gets quite warm. See what happens. There is one problem however! Brother laser printers don't use toner as we know, it's plastic particles and the fusing temperature is much higher than normal toner powder. There's plenty reading on this subject on the internet and them not being suitable for PCB. I'm going off what I have read, I always use Samsung and they proved OK even the El' cheapo models..... one thing to remember is with PCBs you are laying a larger area of toner down compared to normal printing, this 'might' play a part as well. You might say where the paper is bubbling, might be a clue here, is it on the toner and the the blank areas? davy