X-Received: by 10.182.85.65 with SMTP id f1mr5928994obz.33.1394922174189; Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!ur14no8034440igb.0!news-out.google.com!bw18ni13991qab.1!nntp.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.gcicommunications!news.posted.gcicommunications.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:22:52 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.ubuntu,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender References: <87siqnnb2u.fld@apaflo.com> <87bnxamfoe.fld@apaflo.com> <8761nhl7v8.fld@apaflo.com> <87r465j721.fld@apaflo.com> <12egoeyciezgx$.dlg@example1357.net> <87iorfi4v5.fld@apaflo.com> From: floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) Organization: __________ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 14:22:43 -0800 Message-ID: <87eh23hzkc.fld@apaflo.com> User-Agent: gnus 5.10.6/XEmacs 21.4.15/Linux 2.6.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:AFhMcuL1ppM561fe3ssX2oQwMDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 60 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.237.124.187 X-Trace: sv3-tH2XrxPtN3Nwj8k3qmIGJbnI/W3pP8nCXwcW139S5g2deSsuqHZScIiQxASH830wEWFhhjO8ujKtuBq!fbOF0y0UX+n3UL72SpIqT4A+snfXHjlbrZXsHMf+Juj5EoGJ2eoRxXMeguQ/8y9DsQ94fP4j X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.networking:2853 DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: >On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 12:28:14 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) >Gave us: > >>DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: >>>On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 10:45:27 +0000, mechanic Gave >>>us: >>> >>>>On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:02:25 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>> There was discussion about crosstalk at the terminations, where >>>>> crosstalk occurs. What makes you think it would occur in the twisted >>>>> segment? >>>> >>>>Morning DLUNU, thanks to your minders for letting you out to play >>>>again today. >>>> >>> >>> Is there any post you make where you are not spouting elementary >>>school mentality horseshit? >>> >>>>Now if you were concerned about different twist rates for different >>>>pairs in a cable, the crosstalk you're worried about must occur in >>>>the 'twisted segment', no? If it occurred only at the terminations >>>>the twist rates of the various pairs could be the same with no >>>>penalty? See the argument? >>> >>> You really are lost, child. Even after the other person explained a >>>few things to you. >> >>His logic in that statement is astute and impeccable. >> > > Sure... where else can it take place at? He logically showed that your statement was not possibly correct. >>>>In telephone cables there were rules set out ages ago to try to >>>>minimise crosstalk by choosing pairs in appropriate groups in big >>>>transmission cables, I was just wondering if it was a real problem >>>>in Ethernet cables or even Ethernet patch cords? Seems unlikely but >>>>I wondered if there were any standards on this. >>> >>> We don't call it "tip and ring". Go back under your rock, loser >>>muckanic. >> >>But we do in fact call it tip and ring. > > Old phone guys, sure. > > Modern IT folk... not so much, if ever. Unless they know what they are talking about. And that will continue to be true as long as color coding schemes for such cables distinguish between the two wires of a pair. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/ Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com