Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.posted.gcicommunications!news.posted.gcicommunications.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 00:25:53 -0500 Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.ubuntu,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender References: <87bnxamfoe.fld@apaflo.com> <8761nhl7v8.fld@apaflo.com> <87r465j721.fld@apaflo.com> <12egoeyciezgx$.dlg@example1357.net> <87iorfi4v5.fld@apaflo.com> <87eh23hzkc.fld@apaflo.com> From: floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) Organization: __________ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:25:51 -0800 Message-ID: <87a9cqiujk.fld@apaflo.com> User-Agent: gnus 5.10.6/XEmacs 21.4.15/Linux 2.6.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:LUd/ira2u/+ET6eMtG5WcNdABls= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 70 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.237.124.187 X-Trace: sv3-lJ8fS+kWPWqSgYX7w8+4kYutn6RcK//rE7x2LRHmYABKqPKszfvVxjLIYKH+1ms/AxWKrLUh+zlLl2o!hrNITXxfUwMPC5BQhlO5FWZWtz/C4NLJZsK7uaezoHgB85j+V0rw/7fVI1v1lyGs9mCshIs2 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4438 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.networking:2855 DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: >On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 14:22:43 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) >Gave us: > >>DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: >>>On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 12:28:14 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) >>>Gave us: >>> >>>>DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: >>>>>On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 10:45:27 +0000, mechanic Gave >>>>>us: >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:02:25 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There was discussion about crosstalk at the terminations, where >>>>>>> crosstalk occurs. What makes you think it would occur in the twisted >>>>>>> segment? >>>>>> >>>>>>Morning DLUNU, thanks to your minders for letting you out to play >>>>>>again today. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is there any post you make where you are not spouting elementary >>>>>school mentality horseshit? >>>>> >>>>>>Now if you were concerned about different twist rates for different >>>>>>pairs in a cable, the crosstalk you're worried about must occur in >>>>>>the 'twisted segment', no? If it occurred only at the terminations >>>>>>the twist rates of the various pairs could be the same with no >>>>>>penalty? See the argument? >>>>> >>>>> You really are lost, child. Even after the other person explained a >>>>>few things to you. >>>> >>>>His logic in that statement is astute and impeccable. >>>> >>> >>> Sure... where else can it take place at? >> >>He logically showed that your statement was not possibly correct. >> >>>>>>In telephone cables there were rules set out ages ago to try to >>>>>>minimise crosstalk by choosing pairs in appropriate groups in big >>>>>>transmission cables, I was just wondering if it was a real problem >>>>>>in Ethernet cables or even Ethernet patch cords? Seems unlikely but >>>>>>I wondered if there were any standards on this. >>>>> >>>>> We don't call it "tip and ring". Go back under your rock, loser >>>>>muckanic. >>>> >>>>But we do in fact call it tip and ring. >>> >>> Old phone guys, sure. >>> >>> Modern IT folk... not so much, if ever. >> >>Unless they know what they are talking about. And that will >>continue to be true as long as color coding schemes for such >>cables distinguish between the two wires of a pair. > > 2500 on our campus, 80% of which are top engineers. I'd bet that none >use the phraseology at all. And few of those are even familiar with it. Do you know as little about your engineers as you do about network interface technology? -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/ Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com