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From: Tim Watts <tw_usenet@dionic.net>
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Subject: Re: What distros *don't* use systemd ?
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:13:17 +0000
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On 01/11/14 15:30, Rich wrote:
> Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>> Aragorn wrote:
>
>>> On Tuesday 28 October 2014 23:53, Baho Utot conveyed the following to
>>> comp.os.linux.misc...
>>
>>>> Actually it ( systemd ) caused me to move to FreeBSD after using
>>>> linux since 1995.  Systemd is an abortion.
>>>
>>> Debian Wheezy currently still supports sysvinit - and Debian is set
>>> to vote again on the systemd issue for Jessie and Sid - as well as
>>> Gentoo's openRC and Ubuntu's Upstart, both of which are wrappers
>>> around sysvinit. Slackware still uses a BSD-style init.
>>>
>>> FreeBSD is a nice operating system but it runs far behind on
>>> GNU/Linux in terms of hardware support, so there was no need to
>>> switch to FreeBSD per se, given that the above-mentioned distros
>>> still support sysvinit.
>
>> FreeBSD is extremely easy for me to admin where linux is a F'n
>> nightmare.  I have had almost zero problems setting up my FreeBSD
>> servers and desktops where with linux it's jesus christ who the hell
>> changed that!
>
> Note that the "jesus christ who the hell changed that" effect with
> Linux is highly distribution specific.  Slackware Linux has very much
> less "jesus christ who the hell changed that" effect than the
> distributions that like to play "ride the cutting edge".  Sadly, the
> "ride the cutting edge" distro's are the one's most folks have heard
> of, and therefore, gravitate towards trying out.
>

There was a time when "cutting edge" was necessary for some of us. 
Trying to make sure current hardware was working, or needing devfs 
(later udev) so device hot plugging would actually be viable (I still 
remember having systems with the "user" option on some fstabe entries 
for the CDrom and floppy.

Also, needing the latest GIMP, or the latest video codec libs to have 
any chance of being able to get certain every day jobs done...

These days I find I can be quite content with a 2 year old Long term 
release and not actually miss much... It's a good thing - it means linux 
has reached a certain maturity and "stuff works".