Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tim Watts Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Opensource slowing down? "GoogleDrive" private cloud Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 21:15:08 +0000 Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <4mVMw.1153453.1149704@fx05.am4> <4038563154bf3bc284ed073b86037e48@remailer.privacy.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net zQeJfIBk0XjVADiOtu5NZATkJbfC4f+BTyUjCKaPfzJZaGn7my X-Orig-Path: squidward.dionic.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:IsvWuLkMpKiuiiCuQOpXMKCAfSE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:14131 On 17/03/15 20:55, John F wrote: > > First - let me apologize for top posting - I did not realize I had done that > until after I had sent the message (at work, with stupid OE to post with) > Second - I don't feel I got ripped off, I bought it, and it still works > fine, but it unerves me to have a device like that (it does not have a cell > phone module) that would if it could, make phone calls and send messages > that I did not authorize it to send, but notwithstanding, the fact that I > have to shut off the gps module and specifically disable a lot of it's > functionality just so it will not send google information about me that I do > not specifically authorize it to collect. I have my home systems locked down > so that no info about me is sent without me knowing about it (if I know > about it, that's a different matter) (and as they say "I have nothing to > hide") but the whole commercialism is just rotten It's a perfectly reasonably observation. Google do have great stuff - but it's (mostly) free and when it's free, you're not the user, you're the product! It's a balance. I use Google Calendar because: 1) It's bloody good - way better than Hoarde etc al. 2) I do not have much I call sensitive going in it. But I run my own email and file servers because: 1) Both have sensitive data; 2) Email is handled *exactly* as well with exim+dovecot as Gmail can manage (because there's not shortage of email clients for any platform). However, as what started this thread, the file servers do have a problem because there is (as yet) no network server/cleint app combo that is as nice on a semi connected device as Google Drive, Dropbox and several others. Regarding the apps being able to do random stuff: 1) There is a strong case of "Caveat Userus" - User Beware. The system confirms wiht you if it is OK for an app to do X Y and Z - but you get sod all choice. A better model would have been: You get to tick the boxes you want. If it blows the app up, fair enough. One example - I will not use the official Facebook app since it started asking to use the microphone - bloody cheeky bunch of bastards. 2) But *most* of the time, it works OK. 3) But occasionally, like with unofficial apps and SnapChat, the users got burned as their naked butts and danglies got slapped all over the Internet. I tend to manage by staying in the 1+2 zone, but 3 IS quite worrying as it could be my kids. It's hard to stay on top of everything.