Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Baho Utot Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What distros *don't* use systemd ? Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:51:29 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <89j5ib-4k9.ln1@raspberry-pi.bildanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="36289f8929254428b33b881414c6f292"; logging-data="14488"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/0+OGLR20sfr77P72hXXCoDru4mAOtlBw=" User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:us0ya9qF7UE3mvXih6HIIA+qJBo= Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:12575 Charles T. Smith wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:32:47 -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > >> Aragorn wrote: > FreeBSD is extremely easy for me to >> admin where linux is a F'n nightmare. > > > I wondered why you said that until I read this: > > I have had almost zero problems >> setting up my FreeBSD servers and desktops where with linux it's jesus >> christ who the hell changed that! > > > and I agree 100%. On the one hand, I think that legacy features should > be on by default and developers should 1) make switching to new features > easy 2) champion them. But then, it's clear - we're getting features > for free, we should be willing to beta test them. I am just tired of the 100% linux beta test. I need something that is more stable and doesn't gut the system as in holy shit here comes systemd. > > So, I realize that if I want consistency, I've got to sacrifice > modernness and go with something like FreeBSD, obviously made by people > who understand the timelessness of Unix. Linux is for people who want to > compete with Microsoft... > > By why, really? I spent the last decades hating Microsoft, but when I > look at the energy that goes into following, tracking, competing with > Microsoft, I start to think there's something not right about it. It's > true that Microsoft prevented a development of computers that would have > challenged and grown users, but that's all history now. There's no > longer a need to squash Microsoft. But there's still tremendous energy > and - apparently, money - in countering everything they do. Is it just > hatefulness? I don't hate any system I just want something that works, stable and isn't in 100% alpha/beta all the time.