Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tim Watts Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What distros *don't* use systemd ? Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 07:00:57 +0100 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 5E4Uda1SIe67b3L3Wlj+MwU5VDvTce8PXHsjMtDaka+lLksG4Q X-Orig-Path: squidward.local.dionic.net!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:ipLfdOfmRBpBZ/CNWxhU2vF01u0= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:12007 On 08/09/14 00:10, Bruce Sinclair wrote: > In article , "David W. Hodgins" wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 19:35:45 -0400, Bruce Sinclair wrote: >> >>> I vaguely followed a discussion or 2 on one of more of the linux groups >>> recently about systemd and its uses and pitfalls. I wasn't greatly concerned >>> at the time, but having chatted to someone that knows a bit more than me >> about >>> it, I am now. :) >> >> While I'm not interested in getting into an argument about how systemd >> has been implemented, in general, I'm in favour of the ideas behind it. >> >> I am curious though, about what is making you want to avoid it. > > The words that frightened me the most during the discussion were ... > > "like the windows registry". :) Ignoring the monolithic binary blob nature, it did have some merits - notably a consistent method of storing config data with a separation between per-user settings and machine wide stuff. But the app developers buggered it up with settings all over the place and I still don't know why there were 4 root nodes and not two. Then you had another executive API just for that. The same thing could have been done perfectly well with a library interface to ini style files as were and a well stated policy of system settings plus user settings. Lot less cruft, lot easier to debug and clean up. Oh and it would have been like unix. Reinvented. Poorly ;-> > I don't like the windows registry (though it was marginally OKbecause it wasa > text file). IIRC, I was told systemd was a binary, not text file. That seems > to have all the makings of a cock up waiting to happen to me. :) Yes. The more this discussion goes on, the more it sounds like systemd is the spawn of satan.