Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: [OT] Dead DEC Punch card times (was Re: Taking Speedy too seriously) Date: 6 Nov 2026 00:51:46 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <18dee4b6cab427fa$865$2574533$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <11c8mg3$2e89e$2@kst.eternal-september.org> <_ZucnafJTvBFc3r3nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <11c8rq9$1e6t$1@gal.iecc.com> <%Y_FS.30812$Gsmc.9148@fx17.ams4> <20261103155316.609@kylheku.com> <20261105095148.000026b0@gmail.com> <20261105121255.00003b4b@gmail.com> <1j6dnU7499aecXH3nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <11cirsg$1votj$9@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net +Hc9Mn2yaHBtDdDVfCcvvAC9273YKXdT5VyIYKycfCOtA7Yemn Cancel-Lock: sha1:A0+tj59Nkeitnc3QO2tO/lpBccY= sha256:ik+tSqtoeik3mB+2zjE8p9Qf0iNaWdoUY5FjKEnQNb0= User-Agent: Pan/0.165 (Kostiantynivka) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:95213 On Thu, 5 Nov 2026 21:19:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > But ultimately IBM and Microsoft made the rather shit 8086 the future, > rather than the Z8000, or 68000. Exxon had bought Zilog and IBM was in a pissing contest with Exxon so that was out. Motorola couldn't come up with 68008 parts that would work with the cheap 8 bit peripherals. IBM had used the 8085 in the System 23 successor to the 5100 series so had some familiarity with Intel. Intel saw the 8088/8086 as an interim solution while they developed the iAPX 432. The 432 was an utter failure so here we are today.