Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E. R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.shell,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: [OT] Dead DEC Punch card times (was Re: Taking Speedy too seriously) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 00:19:11 +0100 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <18dee4b6cab427fa$865$2574533$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <11c8mg3$2e89e$2@kst.eternal-september.org> <_ZucnafJTvBFc3r3nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <11c8rq9$1e6t$1@gal.iecc.com> <11c9ibo$2e740$1@dont-email.me> <11c9rph$2oln7$7@dont-email.me> <11cb55p$2e740$3@dont-email.me> <11cbi32$3djvr$3@dont-email.me> <11cbora$3fh28$1@dont-email.me> <11cdg4e$46jl$2@dont-email.me> <4juGS.78284$y_V1.5930@fx12.iad> <11cf4c6$k0n0$3@dont-email.me> <81MGS.199929$MmU5.25273@fx44.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net lr6ihqb/1qEa+nxFNySl4Qq6WF7mc5k6jhGdhUnZkaX0f/O6b/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:waCh66rhGIPSwbjePlnflC6vdkY= sha256:imaDBiEnI+fApdVqsovWzYjKI5UOTHNSyOHUkv5x+qo= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <81MGS.199929$MmU5.25273@fx44.iad> Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:95142 comp.unix.shell:27280 alt.folklore.computers:236521 On 2026-11-04 20:51, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-11-04, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 04/11/2026 09:58, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>>> You could get 9600-bps modems, but they were ten grand a pop. >>>> And the leased line wasn't cheap either.  As ever, we balanced >>>> price against performance. >>> >>> And we were told that 9600 was the limit, the theory said so. I think it >>> was 9600. >> >> for one type of technology, it was... > > The mainframe I worked on could do async (although nobody > ever did) - but since Everybody Knows that async is a > low-speed protocol the ports weren't designed to run async > any faster than 2400 bps, even for direct connections. > > Didn't part of the RS-232 spec say that wiring had to handle > 50-foot runs at 9600 bps? Given cable capacitance it could > be a crap shoot, but we managed to get async terminals > (or emulators on PCs) to talk to a Sun workstation at the > other end of the building at 38400 bps. > I got my PC to talk to another PC at 118K with a serial port across perhaps 20 metres, in the 90's. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.